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Anonymous asked in Food & DrinkVegetarian & Vegan · 2 months ago

I don't understand veganism. How do eggs and honey make animals suffer?

Most farmed animals do suffer but I don't think the ones farmed for eggs or honey suffer?

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  • ?
    Lv 7
    2 months ago
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      Not all poultry farms treats their hens that great. However there are new laws, that are being slowly enacted, to change that. Some places around the world have now outlawed the tight confinement of what are called battery cages for laying hens. It's not just vegans or even vegetarians who has called for that to change. Of course in some videos of what's called free range, are poorly done. It really doesn't take much to have a flock of chickens flock together outside that actually are free range. All one needs is a bucket of something like cracked corn, and throw it out on the ground, and the chickens will flock together to get it.

      As for honey, some of it's in the way that bees are handled, that vegans have issues with. However for vegans there is with some a bit of a quandary over them. Some do realize that they are very dependent on bees, for a great deal of what they eat, due to pollenization especially many types of fruits. However bees often will make more than they can, or will use over the course of a year or season. Part of the problem also lies in that a tiny minority will kill off their entire colony to get the honey.

      As for the generalization that most animals suffer goes, very few actually suffer while they're being raised, and all the way through to slaughter. Most of that has been put out by PETA, and a few other groups perhaps who has known for exaggerating things or creating videos. Some members has actually gone onto farms, and has gone as far as portray themselves as farm workers, to show the animals are mistreated. Then in other cases getting jobs on a farm, to mistreat, and "document" the mistreatment of animals. It was for that reason some places created laws that now make for setting up such "documentation", illegal.

      While I agree that there are definitely some really bad people and places out there, where mistreatment does occur, it's not anywhere near as rampant or common place as PETA and some other groups would have people believing. It helps with building the disconnect between the source of where food comes from, by using such videos, to try to convince those in urban and suburban areas, as what goes on farms. But I've also seen other areas of where there's some type of a disconnect from reality, and in livestock, and with food and nutrition in general. However that's a whole other set of topics.

  • 2 months ago

    OK,animals to animals.We humans function better with vegetarian food because we are programmed to eat that way by nature and will lose if we deny it.Your body needs its own and its own is vegetarian

  • ?
    Lv 7
    2 months ago

    Look into how commercial eggs are ranched.  It's pretty horrible.  More than pretty horrible, it will put you off eggs for a long time.

  • 2 months ago

    Most farm animals suffer?  They are a commodity, and if they did not have value as a food source they would all be taken out in the back field and killed.  People who don't want the world to eat meat need to understand that they are proposing genocide.

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  • 2 months ago

    It is not about cruelty to animals at all for people that understand what many vegans are attempting to do for their body. Go look up Methylation and the human body. It is the cycle in your stomachs intestinal system and processing food. The human methylation process is not always completed correctly by certain people on different food types. The doctors during their medical training get some training on it, but it is becoming its own field of study. The vegans if they are vegans trying to take animal protein out of their diet it gets real detailed, real quick on what the vegans' diet protein and other nutrients, vitamins, and other elements in the vegetable do for your body as compared to animal proteins. For example if the methylation processes is not completed correctly, or fully with some foods for a given individuals DNA and and their body's intestinal system. The body's methylation incomplete process will leave too much homocysteine in your blood that did not get converted into the correct next step of your food processing. Go look for the methylation chart with circles in the diagram, and the explanation of the complete process. Doctors are just now learning a field of thought where by the homocysteine excess levels in some people's blood interfere with your brains cells replacement during your bodies natural cell replacement, and may lead to the Alzheimer's. This Alzheimer condition so many are now facing by the millions in our population. Hope this helps your understanding some folks are about the animals for vegans, but many are now about our remembering you get one body and how you take care of it with a little study will reward you ten times over. Good  health to you.   

    Source(s): Dr. Dale Bredensen's "The End of Alzheimer"
  • 2 months ago

    I wonder why Alphonse thinks that combine harvesters dig up carrots! 

    Most male chicks are killed very young as they won't lay. Most laying chickens and ducks are kept in cruel conditions. Personally I do eat a few eggs, but never buy any eggs that not free range. I also use a little local honey: no doubt some vegans will explain why they don't. 

    I stopped eating animals over forty years ago, and now scientists are telling us that rearing animals for food is the single most damaging activity for our planet.

    Anyway, to each his own: we all try to do what we think and feel is the correct course.  

  • Anonymous
    2 months ago

    There are different reasons for people being vegan: Religion, care for animals, and health. So once someone decides to be a vegan they follow all the rules even if they don't have to otherwise they can't tell everyone they're a vegan all the time. Many don't avoid eating meat because they care for the animals, in some religions they won't eat pork, but it's not because they care about pigs, they'd feel defiled if they ate pork.

    Chickens suffer when they are packed into overcrowded sheds, never seeing the light of day.

    Bees for farming, including honey, is quite controversial with vegans. Because of the large number of bees used in industry they are crowded together in hives and millions die because of poor treatment farm scale bee use entails. So some vegan won't even eat avocado because of bees, others say that in the modern world it's impossible to be so extreme.

  • Anonymous
    2 months ago

    Veganism, so far as diet goes, is simply not consuming any kind of animal products. There is no motive implied. A person might decide to be vegan because they don't enjoy consuming those things and/or can't consume them without ill effects, because they don't like the idea of eating parts of dead animals or something that comes out of an animal, because they think a vegan diet is healthier or because they come from a vegan background.

    Some people, of course, become vegan because they are against animals being “exploited”. They don't believe that animals are ours to use as we want. They think t is wrong to do this, unnecessary, and want no part of it.

    A person is either “vegan” or they are not: they can't pick and choose!

    If you think that chickens farmed for eggs do not suffer in any way, then you are mistaken. Chickens, in general, are one of the most badly treated animals that are farmed.

    Don't try to “understand” other people's dietary decisions. Just accept that they have the right to make a choice about what they do, and do not, eat and drink.

    Source(s): I follow an ordinary, omnivorous diet.
  • 2 months ago

    Chickens can be forced to live in shoebox-sized cages on factory farms for the whole of their lives, just for the manufacturing of eggs. Some have never seen the light of day and end up crippled because they cannot move around due to being caged so tightly. Bees produce what THEY need, not what we need. When we take the honey, it means they have to work extra hard to keep the colony alive. 

  • Anonymous
    2 months ago

    They claim free range eggs are not really so free range, as in there's still too many hens in a small space while only having a small patch of land outside and that bees still die that are farmed for honey. Free range eggs are usually bigger though and not as thin so doesn't that point to better treatment of hens? We all know if they suffer so does the products. Maybe the odd bee does die but so does the odd rabbit when a combined harvester is collecting their vegan carrots. 

  • 2 months ago

    Good Point.Bees are going to make honey,and Chickens are going to lay eggs no matter what.

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