Who else thinks the US should abolish the electoral college?

1. Yes I'm aware that it would take quite an effort from the supreme Court but from a logical standpoint the electoral college has done more harm than good. 2. The electoral college is not mathematically correct because look at it this way California 65 times bigger than Wyoming but yet California has 55 electoral college votes in Wyoming has 3 that shows mathematic incompetence. 4. Due to the electoral college and a winner take all environment on States elections are more of a formality and an individual's individual vote does not really matter unless it's a close race. For example if someone votes and their candidate doesn't carry that state then regardless if it was a landslide victory or not everyone's vote for the losing candidate was irrelevant not counted in the overall count for the electoral college. this would be significantly different if every vote legitimately counted as part of the overall total.4. popular votes cannot be gerrymandered. 5. the current election system already suppressed the vote and uses gerrymandering to hinder a lot of individuals using a popular vote system would empower a lot of disenfranchised individuals.

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6. . if people are so adamant that they want each citizens vote to count equally and States not to be held hostage by bigger States then shouldn't we also consider the fact that each US citizens rights should be valued and keep in mind there are more people in several US territories than in several Republican states. individuals in US territories deserve to vote especially since they are US citizens fighting the military. 

Update 2:

Not including them in part of the electoral college shows a willingness to compromise the will of the people. Using a popular vote is the best way to note the will of the people

Update 3:

When mathematically the system is so disproportionately incorrect then it cannot be anything more than flawed and in dire need to be modified since it has proven to be outdated

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  • Anonymous
    2 months ago
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    The electoral college is a concept that’s outdated and doesn’t make sense in today’s political environment. It originally was intended for slaves to count as 3/5 of a person. But today, it gives small states like Wyoming 4 times the voting power as California. Candidates don’t even bother campaigning in states that lean heavily to one side or the other. They don’t bother with states like CA, NY, MA, WV, WY, ID, and other states that have no chance of flipping. Basically, the deciding votes come down to a few swing states. It doesn’t make sense that a candidate can win a state by 1 vote, or 1 million votes, and get the same number of electoral votes. As a NY voter, my vote for president won’t make any difference. I think there’s something very wrong with a system where a person can lose the popular vote and still become president. Honestly, I think we need to do away with the two party system altogether. It just creates a highly partisan system where everyone takes sides against each other, and nothing gets done. If we abolished political parties, it would bring the focus back to the issues, and politicians would be forced to think for themselves instead of following the leader of their party. The current “us vs. them” attitude is getting really old. We need our elected officials to represent their constituents, not their party. 

  • Anonymous
    2 months ago

    We should start over from the beginning and have a parliament with proportional representation.

  • 2 months ago

    We've got better technology and still use the electoral voting system. The electoral college is just one of the ways the U.S. keeps the 2-party system, since the delegates are chosen/hand picked by each political party. That means that some of these wonderful politicians can choose their friends. As for more densely populated areas controlling the votes....It would still make you feel more like your vote actually matters, because they would have to wait until all of the votes are counted. It really shouldn't matter if a big city has more weight than a small town, because the politicians would have to work harder to get your vote.

  • 2 months ago

    All 50 states have to be on board and on the same page of the idea of abolishing the electoral college and most are not!

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  • 2 months ago

    The United States is a nation of "separate states", each of which are entitled to particular "state's rights."  Just look at the way that "state governments" kept federal officials the hell out of their ballot counting centers this year. In addition, all of Trump's lawsuits are being reviewed and/or adjudicated by "state courts", not federal courts.  If the Electoral College is done away with, this gives the federal government "more power" over the states, and the Founding Fathers were opposed to this.  They wanted "limited federal powers over individual states", because The British Crown had abused its powers as a strong central government.  It's the same reason why our states, counties, and cities are broken up into different jurisdictions.

    Rhode Island is tiny state both in terms of area and population.  Rhode Island has only 4 electoral votes compared to California's 55 electoral votes.  If a majority of Rhode Island residents vote for Candidate A, while a majority of Californians vote for Candidate B, then Candidate A is "still" at a disadvantage, but at least he has the opportunity to win a "small state." The Electoral College gives "underdog candidates" at least a "slim chance" of winning a national election, even when a monstrously larger number of people vote for their opponent in other states.

  • Anonymous
    2 months ago

    We should abolish it when Democrats lose we should bring it back when Democrats win. 

  • 2 months ago

    Just think about how things would be different if it had been Gore. W. brought back his dad's people. They wanted war with Iraq, so they made it up. The Great Recession. Trump lost be 3 million. The Electoral College betrayed the will of the people. Trump was illegitimate. Throughout his presidency the majority of the people were against him. We would have avoided the scandal, the lies ankd the incompetency.

    America is an urban nation. By using the electoral College and the court8s the Republicans the minority have been able to rule the majority. A democracy is majority rule.

    Do away with the Electoral College

  • jijawm
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    2 months ago

    It protects the states from being ruled by large, mostly ill-informed urban populations. 

  • 2 months ago

    No one that believes in the Constitution or this country.  It was designed to avoid tyrrany of the majority!

  • Anonymous
    2 months ago

    For a majority of the elections, the president that won the electoral votes also won the popular vote. It’s only happened 5 times out of 58 elections where the president won the electoral but lost the popular.  It’s down to 3 if you consider that Quincy Adams and Hayes became president due to congress appointing them. Quincy Adams lost both the electoral votes and popular votes but the winner was chosen by congress because none of the 4 candidates had a majority win. Hayes won because congress gave him the disputed electoral votes. 

    I think it could be modified where the electoral votes are divided much like what Maine and Nebraska has done. 

    It’s pretty scary that someone can be president just by winning the top 11 states with the most electoral votes. 

  • Anonymous
    2 months ago

    the electoral college is a great system that forces the candidates to consider the entire country rather than just a few heavily populated areas

    and it would take a constitutional amendment to change it, good luck getting 38 states to give up their voice in the election

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