Anonymous
Anonymous asked in SportsCycling · 1 month ago

Patrons of a nearby business keep locking their bikes to the fence and railing at our business.  We put up signs and started cutting locks?

We also informed the business to instruct their patrons not to chain their bikes here.  We have many disabled customers and can't have our ramps and handrails obstructed. 

One of the guys ended up losing his bike after someone rode off with it.  He threatened to sue.  Our security guard served him a mo trespass order and told him to go ahead and sue, we have insurance and they will handle it.  In the mean time, unless he gets a judgement,  he can pound sand.  He was really disappointed when the police told him they couldn't charge any of us for theft.

Why does the younger generation feel entitled to do things like this where they like?  A fence you don't own is clearly not an appropriate place to chain a bike.

Update:

No we have not considered putting ugly wood panels over a decorative fence and railings.

Update 2:

Oh who cares if cutting the lock is supposedly illegal?  The police aren't interested in pursuing any criminal aspect and trying to sue a company with a very good insurance police and a small army of lawyers is going to be an excercise in frustration for them.   I got a letter from a lawyer once and our lawyer literally told me to shred it and ignore it.  The lawyer contacting me did not have good legal service on our statutory agent so no need to do anything.

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  • 1 month ago

    It is your property. You have posted it. 

    I might suggest that you point the complainers to the business, or you take it to the owner of the other business. Secure bike stands are reasonably inexpensive. Maybe that can come to you assistance.

    Soccerref 

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  • 1 month ago

    Put another lock on the bike, and charge a fee for unlocking. Make sure this policy is spelled out on your signs

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  • 1 month ago

    Let them sue. It's not an issue for you're insurance - they'll lose unless you're illegally posting the spot.

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  • Anonymous
    1 month ago

    Do everyone a favour. After you have cut the lock put the two wheeled menace in a skip. 

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  • 1 month ago

    Been "car free" now for TWELVE years.  But...you have every right to continue doing what you've been doing.  If they can't read...screw 'em.  After you cut the lock, confiscate the bike & charge them a hefty fee to get it back.  

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  • Anonymous
    1 month ago

    Can't legally cut/remove lock and abandon, leave outside. (poses liability for yourself. your property but vandalism and theft opportunities...) 

    -if lock is removed (note date/time, take pictures before, bring bikes inside a secure area, WAIT FOR??? to get it parents/police... If not picked up 2-weeks donate it get itemized receipts with date) 

    -Signs

    -police, neighborhood watch... (suggest a bike racks and location) 

    -attach a second lock to their bike (an illegally parked car on private property. Can be towed or BOOTED)

    -court, IF property damage is done (police report, pictures, video. Bikes owners/users...) 

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  • David
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    1 month ago

    Do you mean you cut the lock and leave the unlocked bike there for anyone to take off with?

    If so, it’s a new one to me. Never heard of that approach before. 

    Even if you do have a right to keep your fence or rail clear, I’m not sure that is entirely legal. 

    If you simply cut the lock and leave the bike, then the obstruction - which you may have a right to remove - is still there. 

    You’ve cut the lock - damaged someone else’s property - for no good reason.

    A very similar thing goes if you cut the locks and wheel the bikes further down the street and leave them there. 

    Now it’s YOU leaving bikes where they don’t belong. That’s no moral high ground either.

    A far more common - and logical - approach is to cut the lock and kinda-sorta impound the bike. 

    Remove it to a safe and suitable place. 

    Put up a sign that says bike parking not allowed. Parked bikes will be removed, and info on how to reclaim a confiscated bike. Add a line about not reclaimed within x days, the bike will be scrapped, donated to charity etc.

    This way, you can keep your rails and fences clear in a responsible and unprovocative manner. There is a limit to how angry (most) people can get when caught breaking a clearly posted rule.

    The loss of time and money it means to get the lock cut and having to see someone about getting the bike back should be enough discouragement to avoid repeat offenders.

    Also, the fact that cyclists regularly have to improvise to find a place to leave their bikes suggests that there is something missing in the neighbourhood - a bike rack.

     People are far more likely to be lazy than rebellious. If there is a bike rack within easy distance, that’s what they’ll use.

    Talk to the ”business owner’s association”, the City etc. 

    If you can provide an easy alternative, your rails and fences are far more likely to be left alone.

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  • 1 month ago

    I am a cyclist and I'm in total agreement with the measures you're taking; if the fence belongs to you.  You're completely within your rights to do so.  It'd be no different than a car parking in an area where there's no parking signs.

    The one thing good cyclist despise more than anything else is bad cyclist.  The bad cyclist cause people like some of the narrow minded biased anonymous trolls to think all cyclist disobey traffic laws and have an arrogant disrespect for the rights of others.

    Source(s): Motorized Bicycle Owner and Builder.
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  • Anonymous
    1 month ago

    Typical of cyclists. Arrogant, selfish morons. - Yes, cyclists. Two-wheeled rats. 

    • x1 month agoReport

      Not cyclist

      America's youths in general. We are inconsiderate. Take the easiest route possible.... (no training, values, morals...) 

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  • 1 month ago

    Have you considered attaching a piece of lumber to the part of the fence where they park their bikes? Your customers could still use the ramp, but the bikers wouldn't be able to lock onto the reinforced fence. The cost of doing this would be minimal and would save you and your customers a lot of aggravation.

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