Do atheists have any moral value?
According to the Christian belief all people are created in the image of God and God values everyone. Therefor of a person harms or kills another one, the person had killed/harmed someone objectively valuable and God will hold them accountable. A Christian can consistently say that a Christian and an atheist’s life is equally worth.
But if a human life worth as much if you remove God from the equation?
Answer is no. According to atheism humans only consist of atoms and there is nothing in nature to tell us that humans are objectively valuable. What is it in nature that values the atoms in a human more than those in a rock? In atheism there is no such thing, in atheism a person is worth as much as a rock. Blowing up a rock is no different than bombing people. How can a logically consistent atheist say that one is okay but not the other? There’s just atoms in both cases.
And if an atheist comes with a reason why a person is more important than a rock then he has just made up something that doesn’t reflect reality. For example if he says humans are worth more than rocks because they have families that value them, then why is that true instead of looking at how society values them? Where in the universe do such principles even come from and if they don’t exist aren’t they just made up nonsense that no one is obliged to follow?
So are atheists worth anything?
According to Christians - yes
According to atheists - no
- Roberta BLv 67 days ago
I agree with your last statement, with an amendment:
According to CHRIST and Christians who emulate him - yes
The reason why is that the CHOICE that one ultimately makes is what makes every human being valuable, and that CHOICE is what makes the difference between whether someone will live forever or die.
Jesus came to the earth in order to demonstrate and provide for the idea that humans do not have to live a futile life and then die an eternal death.
He lived that, taught that, and proved it by not holding back from telling the truth about himself and his God and Father. He was even willing to die for the idea that humans have the right to be given the choice to be reconciled to their Creator.
He also made it possible for us to regain the everlasting life that we lost because of bad decisions made by our fore-parents, and also those made by ourselves.
"Just as the Son of man came, not to be ministered to, but to minister and to give his life as a ransom in exchange for many.”
In another place, God's word said that "when people of the nations, who do not have law, do by nature the things of the law, these people, although not having law, are a law to themselves. They are the very ones who demonstrate the matter of the law to be written in their hearts, while their conscience is bearing witness with them, and by their own thoughts they are being accused or even excused."
Applying this to atheism, many atheists insist that there is no objective morality, but they accuse the God of the Bible of doing evil things, and thereby they feel justified to reject his existence.
However, the very fact that they feel justified to accuse God indicates that they do concede that morality exists by which one can accuse another.
The question now comes - If we weren't created by a moral God, then from where does morality come? From human cultures, or a desire for orderly relations with others? If that is so, then where does that come from - seeing that we are, according to most atheists, evolved from unthinking energy that somehow became atoms and life?
The fact that something is in us that indicates that nothing cannot be counted on to change itself into something, which became life, and then humans with moral consciences, shows that there has to be a better explanation than that:
"For the creation was subjected to futility, not by its own will, but through the one who subjected it, on the basis of hope that the creation itself will also be set free from enslavement to corruption and have the glorious freedom of the children of God."
Our Creator has arranged for us all to be able to choose to reach out for such freedom. The questions that people, including atheists, ask about God and the Bible can be answered satisfactorily, because many former atheists have discovered them.Source(s): Matthew 20:28; Romans 2:14-15; Romans 8:20-22 https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp201... https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/g2015... https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/do... https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/ou...
- Anonymous1 week ago
Atheists value is to destroy morals and replace them with immoral morals as the norm.
- antoniusLv 71 week ago
You really think that you know a little about the subject, don't you? You ask a question then you want to answer it. How does that work?
Before you try to sling mud at atheists, you need to steam clean your churches and those priests and preacher first. What value are they who pretend then rape children? Open your eyes and see, then think.
- RichardLv 51 week ago
Nope, we are the most uncouth people on the planet. Begone troll.
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- Bulldog reduxLv 71 week ago
Typical Christian fundamentalist rant. I worked for eight years in deplorable conditions in Central Africa helping native peoples improve their crop yields. Twice I contracted malaria, and once I was infected with parasitic worms. And you have the gall to pull your moral superiority stunt on me. Have you no shame, at last, have you no decency?
- nineteenthlyLv 71 week ago
There's so much wrong with your question that I'm only going to address one aspect of it. You assume that all atheists are also scientifically realist and metaphysically naturalistic, so for example that they believe there are no souls and no afterlife. Whereas there are many Western atheists who call themselves that, there are also many atheists, e.g. spiritualists, Jains, many Buddhists, whose view doesn't correspond to how you describe it.
God reports on the nature of right and wrong from an omniscient position. In a hypothetical situation where God didn't exist and somehow the Universe was arranged exactly as it is now, morality and the value of people would be exactly the same as they actually are. God doesn't force things to be right and wrong by saying they are. God just tells us to do the right thing.
- Chi girlLv 71 week ago
Moral value? What are you talking about??
"Are atheists worth anything?
According to Christians - yes
According to atheists - no"
What?? Atheists have value as human beings, and atheists know that. Your question makes no sense.
@ Jea -- Honesty and reality -- "two concepts I wish were not foreign to" you.
We Christians "actually help others", many of us.
"The church takes from the poor, then skips the tax on their huge profits."
Dream on. Churches don't "take" anything from people, and which part of "non-profit" don't you understand? In addition, if parts of church property are used to generative income -- a church hall for rent, for example -- tax is paid on that part of the property.
Get treatment for your jaundiced eye.Source(s): Greek Orthodox Christian
- CaesarLv 71 week ago
According to some Christians hiding and protecting sexual abusers is moral, many Christians groups had been prosecuted for that and other religions had been caught doing the same...so the some God will hold them accountable... is a good question you can make for people who believe in gods, other people like atheists do not need some afterlife bribe or fear to behave in a moral or civilized way or threat other living beings with empathy.
- MordentLv 71 week ago
In North Korea plastic bottles are very rare. You hear stories about deserters coming into China and being ASTONISHED that these unbreakable, reusable bottles that are worth so much to the average North Korean are so worthless that people will use them once and then discard them.
So what is it? Are the bottles worth a lot or worth nothing? The answer is they're worth the value that people give to them. There are plenty of people who call themselves Christians who think that refugees are no better than cockroaches, and that they should simply be left to die.
- Anonymous1 week ago
Atheists have morals based on empathy.
Theists have morals based on fear.