How do you charge obstruction when the cases are still in court?

The dems made the decision to forge ahead and NOT wait for the court to finish its work. So, how do you come by obstruction from that?

Update:

Details, right?  I mean, why let details ruin a good impeachment? We can just invent some crime, right?

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  • 1 month ago

    Obstruction is a separate crime, not contingent on the original. Take politics and Trump out of it for a minute- say there’s a guy on trial for something totally different, maybe bank robbery. This guy decides the evidence paints an unfavorable picture, so he takes steps to destroy it before it can be presented to the court, and also threatens the witness who could place him at the scene, to improve his odds. Unfortunately for him, this is known because there were cameras in the rooms for both the threats and the evidence tampering.

    So, having discovered this behavior, do you wait for the outcome of the now-tainted robbery trial before deciding whether or not to charge him with obstruction and witness intimidation? Whether or not he’s guilty of the original robbery, he’s definitely guilty of that. 

    I’m not speaking to the strength of the impeachment case, only to your point that one should have to wait for the other. 

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  • Anonymous
    1 month ago

    If you were actually up to date on the articles of impeachment you would realize it is obstruction of Congress due to Trump's continuing attempts to deny the constitution of the United States as it applies to his office.  There is no "court case" as of yet, although I doubt facts will interest you but the Congress acts more as a Grand Jury and brings charges against an individual, the Senate conducts the actual trial and determines what punishment, if any, that the President will undergo.

    There are plenty of details however it requires the ability for independent thought, something the Republican Party has been actively discouraging among it's members for several decades.

    • "deny the constitution of the United States"?  Wow.  That is some good edumacation you got there.

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  • 1 month ago

    It's funny how, the last hearing was being conducted for what reason? If they were already writing up articles of impeachment, then it was pointless. Just another waste of money.

    • That committee has to write the articles, but the chairman was a clown the last time around.  So, they had to do the bare minimum to pretend that committee is part of this.

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  • 1 month ago

    In an impeachment, the court is the senate.

    " In modern times, contempt of Congress has generally applied to the refusal to comply with a subpoena issued by a Congressional committee or subcommittee—usually seeking to compel either testimony or the production of requested documents."

    Since contempt or obstruction of congress does not require a court to rule or be involved, it is completely acceptable to charge obstruction against a person for refusal to comply with a subpoena or failure to produce requested documents.

    Obstruction or contempt of congress is not some invented crime.

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  • 1 month ago

    Gee, you mean the exact series of events that brought down Nixon on obstruction charges can’t happen again?

    What law changed?

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  • Anonymous
    1 month ago

    Because in court (which the impeachment process is not) is one place where obstruction can occur and it would be proper to add that charge.

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  • 1 month ago

    Now  I see why you are Capn Happy.  Ignorance is bliss.

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  • 1 month ago

    By refusing to allow subpeonaed witnesses to testify.......

    by intimidating witnesses   as they testify........By refusing to turn over requested documents, and refusing , in general to cooperate with the Congressional power to investigate- 

    That enough Obstruction for you? 

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    • Weasel McWeasel
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      1 month agoReport

      He didn't "defend" himself........he threatened someone, WHILE they were testifying and telling the TRUTH, about his crooked schemes.  That's a CRIME. 

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  • Rayal
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    1 month ago

    What court and which case? There have been so many with the Trump administration.

    Still waiting for the IRS to be done auditing Trump's Tax Returns so he can release them as he promised. 

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  • 1 month ago

    Obstruction of Congress. Look it up.

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