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Why do Democrats oppose voter ID when they can afford it in India?

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  • Daro
    Lv 7
    2 weeks ago
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    Voter ID wud make it very hard for their prime constituency, the illegal alien. Remember Hilery ran almost exclusively on getting their vote in 2016. This aftershe threw white working people ou of her party right before election. (Smart move for a KKKlinton huh?)

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    Ted Cruz got it right properly labeling them "Undocumented Democrat Voters"

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/10/stacey-abra...

  • Anonymous
    2 weeks ago

    Other countries that require ID to vote generally have a national ID card which is automatically issued to citizens.  It has nothing to do with poverty or number of citizens.  The cost of issuing an ID card for a national government is minimal.  The US doesn't have a national ID card in part because of traditional American ideas of small government and freedom from government surveillance (ideas which conservatives used to believe in).  ID in the US is opt in, with citizens having to go and take the initiative in getting the ID themselves.  The fact that ID is not automatically issued to all citizens means that voter ID laws can be used as a form of voter suppression.  While the vast majority of Americans have ID which satisfies such laws, not everyone does.  In particular if you don't drive, perhaps because you're too poor to own a car or live in an inner urban area where you don't need to drive, then you might not have a drivers license, the most common form of photo ID.  Other lawful voters may lack an appropriate ID for other reasons. 

    Of course, one could get an ID, but that's a process.  Now the IDs themselves are free, since it's unconstitutional to charge someone money to vote.  But the process of getting an ID can cost money.  It can require a trip to a DMV, which may be far away if one lives in a rural area.  It also will usually involve obtaining documents to prove ones identity, which can cost money.  You also need to take time out of your day, and possibly take time off work.  Even when one has ID one can have a problem voting.  Women who have married and changed their name may not have ID which matches their registration information.  In Georgia, where a Republican narrowly won the Governorship last year, your name on your ID had to exactly match what was in the voter rolls.  So if you had a middle initial on one but a full name on the other you couldn't vote.  If a clerk made a typo transcribing your information then you might not be able to vote. Now none of these obstacles are insurmountable, but they're not meant to be.  Voter ID is never going to exclude everyone from voting.  The goal is to make it a bit harder for people to vote and then maybe they'll give up.  And the laws tend to be targeted at people who tend to vote Democratic. 

    It's suppression in part because we know the people passing it were intending it to be suppressive.  In Pennsylvania the Republican head of the legislature said that they passed the law to "help Mitt Romney win Pennsylvania".  In Ohio a Republican operative admitted that "if black people voted Republican we'd never" be supporting voter ID.  In North Carolina, the Republican majority in the legislature actually sought out information on what types of ID African Americans used and excluded several of those from satisfying the law.  A federal court found that the North Carolina law targeted black voters "with surgical precision".  Another example is in South Dakota where a Democrat won the Senate race in 2012 with strong support from Native Americans.  The Republican controlled legislature passed an ID law targeting Native American voters by requiring that ID have a street address on it (many Native Americans in the state don't have street addresses because they live in rural areas of reservations where they don't get home delivery of mail).  Republicans have also taken steps to make ID harder to get.  In Wisconsin, the former Republican Governor closed down DMVs in largely Democratic cities but opened them in largely white suburbs despite the fact that population growth is highest in the urban areas.  In Alabama they passed a voter ID law and them immediately announced plans to close down all the DMVs in eight of the top ten counties with the largest black population. (they eventually backed off the plan because of criticism).  These voter ID laws have also often been passed in conjunction with other voting laws which are clearly aimed at suppressing the vote, and often suppressing Democratic leaning votes.  For example, in Ohio the Republicans removed early voting on the Sunday before the election because African-American churches were running "souls to the polls" operations where they would bus congregants from worship services to polling places.  In another state they passed a law which said that if you went to the wrong polling place it would be illegal for the poll workers to tell you where the right polling place is.  This has no value in securing the vote but it may prevent infrequent or first time voters (who tend to break more Democratic) from casting a ballot.  One of my favorite examples is from North Carolina (a state rife with voter suppression activity under Republicans).  They passed a voter ID law requiring photo ID for in person voting.  But they had a much lower standard from proving ones ID on an absentee ballot.  The reason is that absentee ballots tend to be more popular among Republicans.  Democrats proposed an amendment which would allow in person voters to use the same standard of ID as an absentee voter but Republicans voted it down.  Again, this has nothing to do with security.  While absentee ballot fraud is very very rare it's much more of a problem than the essentially nonexistent threat of in person voter impersonation (since no poll worker sees who fills out the absentee ballot).  Sure enough, last election someone got caught using fake absentee ballots to win an election, but it was a Republican! 

    Now, as I said, none of these things is totally insurmountable.  But they do provide obstacles to voting and that's the point.  In close races shaving even a few hundred or thousand votes off of the total could make the difference.  For example, this year in Kentucky the Governors race was won by just 5000 votes.  In 2016, Donald Trump won Michigan by just 10,000 votes.  By making it a little more difficult these laws can influence elections in close states.  That's what the Republicans want.  They're never going to have some voting law which, for example, makes New York a Republican state.  But they could pass one which lets them hold on to power in North Carolina, or Georgia, or Florida. 

     

  • 2 weeks ago

    ID seems to be quite easy to come by in the US.

    Why not use it for something important like voting as well?

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  • Sally
    Lv 7
    2 weeks ago

    Because it's a fraud.

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  • 2 weeks ago

    India also decided to change its money. India didn't let anyone in the country withdraw more than $200 from their bank account for 8 months. India is not a democracy. 

    Try to buy a gun in India. You cannot. They have one gun store for the entire nation of over a billion. Unless you are filthy rich you cannot own one. India is not a democracy.

  • Anonymous
    2 weeks ago

    The Republicans' Freedom to Vote Bill SHOULD BE PASSED

    "All voters must have a valid driver’s license in at least three different states obtained at least six business years prior to the election and the only DMV in the country is located in an abandoned hotel on a cliff in Yosemite and it’s open from 1 to 4 am on alternate Wednesdays in months beginning with the letter F.

  • North Carolina created voter ID laws to specifically suppress black voters

    I'm not just asserting this, the Supreme Court found documents from legislators that prove them lookup up stats on the state's black voters and created a law specifically based on that date

    The court unsurprisingly struck it down

  • -j.
    Lv 7
    2 weeks ago

    Their voter ID is tracked and distributed by the federal government.  I for one am fine with that in the US, as long as the IDs are tracked and distributed to ALL eligible voters, COMPLETELY FREE OF CHARGE.  Sounds fine to me.

    But here is what the GOP does: set up separate state laws that can vary from one state to the next, and set those laws to deliberately make it harder for minorities to get the kinds of different IDs that may be acceptable.  That is exactly what happened in three red states in 2016 ALONE (Texas, Wisconsin, North Carolina) until they got struck down in court.

    Make voter ID to help all citizens vote?  Sounds good.

    Use voter ID to keep being racist a**holes?  No thanks.

    Hope that clears things up for you.

  • 2 weeks ago

    They probably made it themselves using American supplies. 

    Who really votes in the USA. 

  • 2 weeks ago

    Democrats even oppose free voter ID.  

  • Anonymous
    2 weeks ago

    Voter ID is designed to suppress votes by the poor, young and minorities because these are the people who tend to vote for Democrats. In many parts of the country a person has to travel hundreds of miles to visit a DMV to get a photo ID. That is a day off from work and tens of dollars in gasoline.

    • The area of India is about 40% of CONUS and 400 million of them earn less that  $1.25 a day. Tay can manage it but the US cannot. Hmm...

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