should I support Israel or Palestine and why ?

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  • 1 month ago
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    I support neither. Both shady AF, and are of no significance to my life. To me they're that divorced couple that nevertheless continue and continue to fight loudly in public every chance they get. I just don't care who is right or wrong and am not planning to hang around them too much.

  • Robert
    Lv 6
    1 month ago

    Hello Ciao,

    "Palestine" is not and never has been, any sovereign state. The "Palestinian" Arabs have autonomy under the Oslo Accords, referred to as: the "Palestinian Territories". Although there is a: "State of Palestine" place-card at the Arab-dominated United Nations, in reality there is no such state.

    I suggest you consider views from both sides and make up your own mind.

    I have considered the Palestinian viewpoint, but find that the things they say cannot be verified.

    People (often those to the “Left” politically) who support the Palestinians, have likely been hoodwinked into misplaced-compassion, due to successful Palestinian propaganda-falsehoods.

    “PEW Research Center” survey on Democrat and Republican member sympathy between Israel and the “Palestinian” Arabs, shows greater support for Israel’s enemies among Democrats (often also described as “liberal”):

    http://www.people-press.org/2018/01/23/republicans...

    The U.S. Democratic Party appears to predominately sympathize with the Palestinian intention to destroy Israel and expel the Jewish People from it. This seems somewhat illustrated by their two recent elections of anti-Israel politicians, one of whom Congressperson Ilhan Abdullahi Omar was fast-tracked to the House [U.S. House of Representatives] Foreign Affairs Committee.

    In deploying their propaganda-falsehoods against Israel, the Palestinians usually find they are “pushing at an open door”, many people being Willing to believe them, while being Unwilling to verify if it is factual, due to anti-Semitism (about which they are often in denial).

    Nor therefore do such people require any reasonable or proper moral standard from the “Palestinian” Arabs.

    Why do the anti-Semitic supporters of the “Palestinian” Arabs assert falsehood-opinion against Israel that is devoid of any objective-evidence, as “fact”? It is because they assume the reader will likely be anti-Semitic, and thus Willing to accept what they say while Unwilling to demand verification.

    Palestinian propaganda is highly successful; comparable to that of Nazi Germany. In summary, it promotes the falsehood that the Palestinians are “victims”, that the Jews are the (fake) cause of all Palestinian perceived issues;

    whereas in reality:

    > The Palestinians are no “victims”.

    > Rather, the Palestinians are victim-makers (see “Palestinian Authority Martyrs Fund” below).

    The reader will also have noticed that “Palestinian” Arabs and their typically anti-Semitic supporters label as:

    “Propaganda”, “Hasbara”, “Dehumanization”, “Subterfuge”, “Rant”, “Lies”,

    any verifiable-argument that the Palestinians seem Unable to answer and therefore also, Refuse to answer.

    The Palestinians do not (and cannot) “do”, objective-evidence.

    The Palestinian education system teaches a false victim-mentality like Nazi propaganda, that the Jews / Israel are the fake-cause of all Palestinian alleged issues (example below):

    https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-examples-of-an...

    Example of Palestinian propaganda that the Jew / Israel, is the (fake) cause of all Palestinian alleged issues:

    The Palestinian Territories have a problem of child sexual abuse, while the Palestinians try to deceive the world it is all Israeli's fault for causing Palestinians “stress” by Israel deploying an economic-blockade – an economic-blockade due to Palestinian rocket attacks (see further down) on Israel:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11720381

    The “Palestinian National Charter” seeks the expulsion of the Jewish People from the Jews ancestral homeland of Israel:

    http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/plocov.asp

    Israel was Re-established in 1948 following a United Nations Partition Plan accepted by the Jews, but the Palestinian-Arab response was in 1947 to start a civil war and terror, to oppose the U.N. Partition Plan, instead take ALL the land of Israel, and ethnically-cleanse or murder the Jews from the Jews ancestral homeland of Israel.

    In 1948 the Arab countries attacked the newly Re-established State of Israel, but the Arabs lost the war. Jordan then illegally-occupied the West Bank, and also illegally-occupied East Jerusalem from which the Jordanians expelled the Jews. Egypt illegally-occupied the Gaza strip. Neither country offered these areas to the Palestinians.

    Palestinian propaganda falsely-alleges the Re-establishment of Israel caused: a “great injustice” / “nakba” (“catastrophe” / “disaster”) to the “Palestinian” Arabs.

    In reality:

    > The Palestinians violently rejected the Arab state of the United Nations Partition Plan;

    > Jordan and Egypt occupied the land proposed for an Arab state under the U.N. Partition Plan (approximating to the West Bank and Gaza);

    > BOTH Arabs and Jews, became war-refugees;

    > The Palestinians falsely-claim with no evidence of any such policy that they were expelled from the land; Jews were indeed expelled by the Arabs as policy. Palestinians live and work in Israel.

    Therefore the reader is entitled to be sceptical about Palestinian propaganda falsely-alleging a fantasy-injustice.

    Due to anti-Semitism (about which they may also be in denial) many people, possibly hoodwinked by the successful Palestinian propaganda-lies, do not require any reasonable or proper moral standard from the “Palestinian” Arabs, who cynically whitewash their anti-Jewish hate-war as:

    “uprising”, “defence”, “desperation”, “struggle”, “resistance”:

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    “The Palestinian Authority Martyrs Fund is a fund operated by the Palestinian Authority for the purpose of paying a monthly cash stipend to the families of Palestinians killed, injured or imprisoned for involvement in attacking, assisting in attacking, or planning to attack Israel [...]”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_Authorit...

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    The “Palestinian Authority”aka Fatah (which together with the P.L.O. pays the terrorism reward-“Pension” of their “Martyrs Fund”, and also funds “Hamas”) is itself funded by the “European Union”.

    Here is an example result from the Palestinian on-going anti-Jewish hate-war:

    Israeli girl, Hallel Yaffa Ariel, aged 13, fatally stabbed in her bedroom in West Bank by a Palestinian terrorist, June 30, 2016, The Guardian:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/30/isra...

    Palestinian rocket attacks on Israeli cities:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_a...

    No wonder anti-Semites display such emotional-support for the Palestinians!

    People are also mislead due to the “halo-reputation” enjoyed by the Arab-dominated United Nations. U.N. polices are fully-complicit with Palestinian propaganda denying Jewish roots in the land of Israel.

    The U.N. and its structures have for many years been dominated by a block-vote of up to 56 Arab and additional Islamic-aligned countries (e.g. U.N. member states that are also members of the “Organization of Islamic Cooperation”), plus the influence of Arab oil money; compared to Israel being just one country.

    Thus, fully-complicit with Palestinian propaganda denying Jewish roots in the Jews ancestral homeland of Israel, the U.N, and European Union both falsely-validate Palestinian propaganda treating the Jewish People as “invaders”, and so also as “thieves” and “illegal-occupiers” of the Jews OWN land (all the areas of land being of the prior Jewish kingdoms of Judea / Israel), likewise illogically of building “illegal-settlements” there, and with Palestinian terrorism regarded as “resistance to occupation”.

    Resolutions on Israel by the Arab-dominated U.N. give the appearance of having been drafted for the U.N. by Palestinian-Propaganda-Central in Ramallah. On the following website the reader can learn about Palestinian propaganda that seeks to replace the history of Jewish presence in the Jewish People's ancestral homeland of Israel, with a fake Arab history, with which the Arab-dominated United Nations is now fully-complicit - see (copy to your web browser) - see (copy to your web browser):

    palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=495

    In United Nations General Assembly votes on the Arab / Israel dispute, a requirement for a Two-Thirds Majority is often invoked, to prevent a U.N. vote passing in favor of Israel:

    https://news.un.org/en/story/2018/12/1027881

    Thus the reader is entitled to consider that the U.N.’s many anti-Israel resolutions carry zero moral weight.

    Brief historical background:

    The Jewish People are the indigenous people of their ancestral homeland of Israel with unbroken presence there since Biblical times:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_...

    The Jewish People have had an unbroken presence in their ancestral homeland of Israel since Biblical times, and also previous sovereign states in the land, for example the Jewish Hasmonean Kingdom of Judah (aka Judea) (including the West Bank, Gaza, and Golan Heights), with its capital of (what is now East) Jerusalem. Between 110 BCE / 754 BH and 63 BCE / 706 BH:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4...

    The “Palestinian” Arabs considering themselves Arab were opposed to being called a “people” until the 1960’s, when they decided it fitted with their intention to steal the land of Israel from its indigenous Jews.

    (Please see the source which I have put into the “Sources” area of this answer.)

    I hope this helps.

    Robert.

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    Source(s): Additional source to which reference is made at the end of my answer: The “Palestinian” Arabs were opposed to being called a “people” until the 1960’s, when they decided it fitted with their intention to steal the land of Israel from its indigenous Jews: http://www.targetofopportunity.com/palestinian_tru...
    • Robert
      Lv 6
      1 month agoReport

      Further example coins of Jewish Hasmonean sovereign state in the land of Israel, here:
      https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=prutah+menorah&category=1&images=1&currency=usd&order=0

  • Clive
    Lv 7
    1 month ago

    What does this have to do with elections?

  • 1 month ago

    Palestine. But do your research. Israel invaded their land and kicked many Palestinians out.

    • Robert
      Lv 6
      1 month agoReport

      Since Israel is re-established within the Jewish ancestral homeland (see map source above) it is therefore also illogical to accuse the Jewish People of: “Invading”, “stealing”, “illegally-occupying”, “being a colony”, or have “illegal-settlements” on, their own ancestral homeland.

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