In the case of an electoral tie, could the U.S. Vice President cast a tie-breaking vote to re-elect themselves V.P.?
In the case of an electoral college tie, the Senate votes to decide the next Vice President. If the Senate vote itself ends up in a tie, could the VP break the tie, as he does for other Senate votes, and re-elect himself V.P.?
- Anonymous2 months ago
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- Weasel McWeaselLv 75 months ago
That's an interesting theorhetical question..........and while the answer might be YES, technically speaking, in today's super charged highly partisan atmosphere.-----any such action, would surely be challenged all the way to the Supreme Court.
But first off, an electoral TIE, is extremely unlikely in the first place. By TODAY's standards........there are only 538 votes up for grabs.........which means a TIE would mean each candidate got exactly 269 electoral votes.............1 shy of winning .
But again, these days, you have other candidates even 3rd and 4th place candidates perhaps sucking up some of those electoral votes.
Even still........according to the rules.........the Senate then votes on the top tier candidates who got the most electoral votes............but could techncally still vote for the 3rd and 4th place candidates, as well. ....so again, a second tie, forcing the VP 's vote in the Senate, is Extremely UNLIKELY.
You probably have better odds of being struck by lightning, than both votes ending in a dead tie.
But theorhetically.........it could happen.
- RICKLv 75 months ago
Because the Presidential election is decided in the House of Representatives and since they now run as as joint ticket it would not matter
The VP can only vote in the Senate if the Senate is tied, he has no power within the electoral college or House of Representatives
- Jeff DLv 75 months ago
Assuming the current VP was one of the top two in electoral votes (i.e., a re-election scenario) then yes, I think so. Of course, it's never happened before so it might end up before the Supreme Court; but the Court usually defers to the legislature on how they handle procedural issues within their respective chambers where the Constitution doesn't spell it out (which arguably is the case here). As long as the Senate is OK with the VP breaking the tie, then I can't imagine the Supreme Court would disallow it. And as a practical matter, what's the alternative? No Vice President?!
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- Tmess2Lv 75 months ago
My best guess is no, but that is based on some of the canons of construction that courts use to interpret texts.
Generally speaking, Article I, Section 7 provides that for a bill to become law it must "pass" both houses. (There are certain provision such as treaties and overriding vetos and impeachment which require a two-thirds vote.) Article I, Section 3 provides that the Vice President only has a vote if the Senate is equally divided. None of these provisions require a "majority of the whole number of Senators.' That language is only found in the Twelfth Amendment. Under the canons of construction, the assumption is that -- when different provisions use different language -- that difference in language is intended to signal different meanings.
Thus, while to pass legislation, the Vice President gets to break ties, the election of a Vice President requires a majority of the "whole number of Senators." Thus, a vote of 50-48 with two absent -- which is not a tie -- is not enough to elect a Vice President, it takes the vote of 51 Senators to elect a Vice President as the Vice President is not a Senator..
A related question would be the effect of a vacancy. A vacant Senate seat is not a Senator. So if a Senator were to die and the vote was taken before the Senate received the appointment of the replacement Senator, 50 votes might be enough to elect a Vice President.
- CliveLv 75 months ago
"The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."
That's the relevant paragraph of the 12th Amendment and as it says nothing more about Senate procedure, we can only assume that the VP would be able to vote to break a 50-50 tie in the usual way. And re-elect himself.
Of course it's never happened, but I could well imagine a challenge in the Supreme Court if it did, What does "a majority of the whole number" MEAN? Does it include the sitting VP?
Unfortunately we won't get an answer until it DOES happen because the Court only deals with actual cases, not hypotheticals.
- skeptikLv 75 months ago
Theoretically, it's possible.
Since the 12th Amendment went into effect it's never happened, but it is a Constitutional possibility.
- CarolOklaNolaLv 75 months ago
No. It goes to the Supreme Court to decide who becomes president. That is how Bush 43 became president in 2001. Gore did not concede.
It does NOT go to the House OR the Senate.
- Mr. SmartypantsLv 75 months ago
In the case of an electoral tie, the election goes to the House of Representatives, not the Senate.
Also, the VP gets to vote only if there's a tie in the Senate.