Joe asked in Pregnancy & ParentingPregnancy · 5 months ago

Which is a greater threat to the existence of Israel? feckless Palestinian rockets or international backlash against Israeli occupation?

Are Israel’s disproportionate retaliations and ethnic cleansing attempts more dangerous to the future of Israel than any Palestinian rocket ever could be?

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  • Anonymous
    4 months ago

    nothing, because G-d supports Israel......

  • Kevin7
    Lv 7
    5 months ago

    Terrorism from Palestine is a danger to both Israel and Palestine. Most of the world supports Israel. Gaza,Judea and Samaria are historical Jewish lands. Israel LEFT Gaza in 2005 and was still attacked by Palestine!

  • 5 months ago

    The jews themselves. Some tribes hate the other tribes plenty. The Arabskenazis hatin the Jewrabs and all the rest of their kind hate eachother.

    Here's a neat jewjoke:

    Somewhere in the Palestinian-Israelian desert. A lonely Jew trucker (?) picks up a rabbi hitch-hiker. They ride along for several hours without saying anything until the trucker thinks that the arabbi is asleep.

    Jew trucker notices a six year old palestinian boy thumbing for a ride up along the dirt road a little way further up. He thinks to himself, darn, I’d sure like to run over that there Ay-rab, but meez don’t know if the rabbi would approve. The trucker thinks about it for a while and comes to the conclusion that he should just pretend to fall asleep at the wheel and run over the Ayrab kid when the time comes. So the trucker pretends to doze off and swerves towards the boy just as they pass by.

    The jew trucker hears a thump and pretends to wake up and exclaims to the ayrabbi, “I didn’t just hit him did I? I fell asleep.”

    The ayrabbi smiles at the driver and says, “Don’t worry friend, you didn’t hit him, but I caught him right there on the head with that 'ere door!”

  • Robert
    Lv 6
    5 months ago

    Hello Joe,

    The Asker seeks to diminish the lethal character of Palestinian rocket attacks on Israeli cities, by using his description: "feckless". Perhaps his attitude would be different were it, his: wife, parents, sister, or children, who were hit, rather than others.

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    "Since 2001, Palestinian militants have launched thousands[1][2][3][4] of rocket and mortar attacks on Israel from the Gaza Strip as part of the continuing Arab–Israeli conflict. From 2004 to 2014, these attacks have killed 27 Israeli civilians, 5 foreign nationals, 5 IDF soldiers, and at least 11 Palestinians[5] and injured more than 1900 people, ..."

    Footnotes 1 to 5 - see webpage.

    Source extract:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_a...

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    Pro-Palestinian or mislead contributors, often falsely-accuse Israel / the Jews, of an “illegal occupation of Palestine”. However, the land is properly called Israel / Judea by reference to the previous indigenous Jewish sovereign states (see examples below). not the Roman-imposed name “Palestine”. There has never been any “Palestine” sovereign state, and nor can there be any logical illegal-“occupation” by Israel / the Jews, of the Jews own ancestral homeland.

    Israel cannot logically nor in law, illegally -“occupy” the West Bank nor Gaza, since they are land of previous Jewish kingdoms, were retrieved from Egyptian / Jordanian illegal-occupation, and the entity making that false-claim “Palestine” - has never existed as a sovereign state.

    Israel left Gaza (above) to Palestinian Autonomy in 2005, under the Oslo Accords (below).

    Israel cannot logically nor in law, illegally-“occupy” East Jerusalem because:

    There has never been a Palestinian sovereign state,

    Jerusalem was never internationally-designated for any Arab state,

    East Jerusalem (Old City) was the capital of previous Jewish Kingdoms,

    was retrieved from illegal-Jordanian-occupation in 1967, from which the Jews had been expelled by the Jordanian illegal-occupiers in 1948.

    Israel cannot logically nor in law, illegally-“occupy” the Golan Heights, since it is land of previous Jewish kingdoms, e.g. the Jewish Hasmonean Kingdom of Judea.

    Israel cannot logically nor in law be accused of illegal “occupation” for the following three reasons.

    It is not possible to illegally-occupy a region, that was:

    1) LAST under the illegal-occupation of a third party: This means prior to the 1967 war, the illegal-occupation by Jordan of the West Bank and East Jerusalem, and by Egypt of Gaza.

    2) Where all the land in question rightfully belongs to the party, here Israel, accused of the alleged “occupation”:

    All the land upon which the Palestinian colonists reside, is of previous Jewish sovereign states of the Kingdoms of Israel / Judea.

    3) Where the claim of “occupation” is made by an entity, here “Palestine”, which never existed as a sovereign state.

    There has never been any “Palestine” sovereign state upon which the “Palestinian” Arabs could either”:

    > Base any claim to the land of Israel.

    > Claim any alleged illegal “occupation”.

    Israel is the only country to which the all the land in question can rightfully belong, since the last indigenous sovereign state in the land before Israel, was the Jewish Hasmonean Kingdom of Judea with (what is now East) Jerusalem as its capital, and including the West Bank, Gaza, and Golan Heights.

    Therefore just as Israel / the Jewish People logically cannot:

    “Invade”,

    Or “steal”,

    or “illegally-settle”,

    or “colonize”,

    its OWN ancestral homeland,

    it also cannot logically “illegally-occupy” its OWN ancestral homeland.

    Since the “Palestinian” Arabs arrived in the land of Israel well after its indigenous Jews, this makes the Arabs the “settler-colonists”.

    The falsehood of Israeli “illegal occupation” of any part of the Jewish People’s ancestral homeland of Israel / Judea is typically due to:

    Anti-Semitism and

    the pro-Palestinian influence of both the Arab-dominated “United Nations”, and the “European Union” (which funds and politically-supports the Palestinians).

    United Nations polices are fully-complicit with Palestinian propaganda denying Jewish roots in the land of Israel. The U.N. and its structures have for many years been dominated by the block-vote of up to 56 Arab and additional Islamic-aligned countries (e.g. U.N. member states that are also members of the “Organization of Islamic Cooperation”), plus the influence of Arab oil money; compared to Israel being just one country.

    Thus, fully-complicit with Palestinian propaganda denying Jewish roots in the Jews ancestral homeland of Israel, both the U.N and European Union falsely-treat the Jewish People as “invaders”, and so also as “thieves” and “illegal-occupiers” of the Jews OWN land (all the areas of land being of the prior Jewish kingdoms of Judea / Israel), likewise illogically of building “illegal-settlements” there, and with Palestinian terrorism regarded as “resistance to occupation”.

    Thus the reader is entitled to consider that the U.N.’s many anti-Israel resolutions carry zero moral weight.

    U.N. Anti-Semitic, Anti-Israel bias - “The U.N. and Israel: Key Statistics from UN Watch”:

    https://www.unwatch.org/un-israel-key-statistics/

    Since the Palestinians also claim ALL the land of Israel, they also describe Israel as “occupied”.

    The “Palestinian” Arabs falsely-allege Israeli Jews all came from Europe. Some Jews are returnee-exiles, since the Jewish People have Judean heritage. Yet the Jewish People are indigenous to their ancestral homeland of Israel, with unbroken presence there from Biblical times:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_...

    The Jewish People have not only had an unbroken presence in their ancestral homeland of Israel since Biblical times, but also prior sovereign states in the land; examples:

    The Jewish Kingdom of Judea (including the West Bank) with its capital of (what is now East) Jerusalem, here:

    http://www.biblestudy.org/maps/kingdoms-of-judah-a...

    The Jewish Hasmonean Kingdom of Judea (including the West Bank, Gaza, and Golan Heights), with its capital of (what is now East) Jerusalem, and independent as at 110 BCE / 753 BH–752 BH:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasmonean_dynasty

    “British Mandate Palestine” was an admin. region (not a sovereign state) and with a name resurrected from that imposed under Roman occupation of Jewish Judea - On the linked web page please scroll down and compare its 2nd second & 3rd maps:

    http://www.shamrak.com/Masada2000-HistoryofPalesti...

    The prior Ottoman Turkish empire did not use any such political term as “Palestine”, but rather Ottoman-occupied Judea / Israel was within the Ottoman province of “Syria”.

    From where did “Palestine” as a name imposed on the land of Israel, come?

    The Romans imposed the term “Palæstina” (“Palestine”) on Roman-occupied Judea / Israel, resurrecting the term from the then defunct much smaller region of “Philistia” (approx. today’s Gaza, till Jaffa), within which the Philistines had their five city kingdoms.

    The “Palestinian” Arabs have no connection with the ancient Philistines.

    The “Palestinian” Arabs may come from those who invaded and occupied the Jewish land of Judea / Israel. However, it is also unclear at what point they arrived there, since they were opposed to being called a “People” until the 1960’s, when they decided it fitted with their intention to steal the land of Israel from its indigenous Jews:

    http://www.targetofopportunity.com/palestinian_tru...

    In 1947 to 1948 the Arabs started a campaign of civil war and terror to oppose the U.N. Partition Plan (aka the U.N. attempt at a two-state solution), and to instead take ALL the land of Israel, and ethnically-cleanse or murder the Jewish Community:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1947%E2%80%9348_Civi...

    In 1948 Jordan illegally-occupied the West Bank and East Jerusalem from which the Jordanians expelled the Jews. Egypt illegally-occupied the Gaza strip.

    Neither country offered these areas to the “Palestinian” Arabs.

    (Please see the sources which I have put into the “Sources” area of this answer.)

    In 1967 Israel gained control of the West Bank and Gaza Strip (from the previous Jordanian and Egyptian illegal-occupation respectively) and as an attempt by Israel at “land for peace” under the Oslo Accords, Israel later granted the Palestinians autonomy for part of the West Bank (40%) and the whole of the Gaza Strip, as part of a peace process which anticipated further negotiations for a peace treaty.

    Being a grant of autonomy (and not sovereignty), until any peace treaty that may say otherwise, the land remains Israel’s.

    Once the “Palestinian” Arabs had tricked Israel into giving them autonomy of part of the West Bank and the whole of Gaza under the Oslo Accords, the Palestinians since:

    > Do not sincerely negotiate any peace treaty.

    > Make an unverifiable false-claim to ALL the land of Israel.

    > Attack Israeli Jewish civilians as policy including children.

    No wonder anti-Semites display such emotional-support for the Palestinians!

    Although the Palestinians attempted to take over Jordan 1970 to 1971, there are no resolutions at the U.N. claiming Jordan is “occupied Palestinian” land. This is because the block-vote of up to 56 Arab and additional Islamic-aligned states, compared with Israel being one country, make it rather easier to make false-allegations of “occupation” against Israel:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September_in_J...

    Image: Coin from the Jewish Hasmonean Kingdom of Judea; reign of its last King - King Mattathias Antigonus, c. [approx.] 40 BCE / 681 BH – 680 BH. See (at last looking) the seventh image down, at:

    https://www.jewishgiftplace.com/Ancient-Menorahs.h...

    I hope this helps.

    Robert.

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    Source(s): Additional Sources: If any link does not work, copy its address to your web browser. Jordanian illegal-occupation of the West Bank and East Jerusalem: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordanian_annexation... Egyptian illegal-occupation of Gaza: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_the_Ga...
    • Robert
      Lv 6
      5 months agoReport

      The Asker also wrote: "ethnic cleansing": He seeks to insult the reader's intelligence by providing for his falsehood: No detail, no objective-sources; zero evidence.

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  • TNO
    Lv 7
    5 months ago

    It's not just the rockets, but the entire terrorist network which launches them that poses the greatest threat to Israel. The rockets by themselves can be handled, but it's ignorant to just look at them in isolation. Because movements like BDS exist, people have looked at the effects of international condemnation and honestly, it's not having a strong effect on Israel. BDS "victories" are usually overblown and ultimately not that harmful to Israel, for example SodaStream relocating from Palestinian areas. SodaStream did suffer minimal economic losses... but they overcome it, unlike the Palestinians who appreciated their jobs (even if their bosses were Jews).

    The rockets are part of a terroristic machine that is not subtle about wanting to destroy Israel. At best, they'll expel most of the Israeli populace if the win; at worst, they'll follow through on their actual threats of genocide. And groups like Hamas have never stopped working for such explicit goals, always dismissing peace as a viable option. So when people are reporting that Israel is responding to the rockets, they usually omit that they're responding to so much more. What about the tunnels to smuggle in weapons, or those seeking to enter Israel illegally with weapons to cause death and panic? Even looking at just the rockets, their damage may not have the range of a missile but they're still devastating to the area. Israel does have the Iron Dome, and a lot of people ignorantly just point to that and say that Israel is fine... ignoring that the device costs a lot of money and is not a sustainable option. Especially when you consider the rockets cost only hundreds of dollars and leech off of donations to the Palestinians, so it's not as much of a burden on the Palestinian leadership (the populace who sees that material diverted away from projects to help them are another matter, though).

    The International Community does pick on Israel, because it's the safe bet. Most of it is pandering to the Islamic nations, and an unwillingness to tackle the actual nations causing problems. Israel is safer to criticize than China, for instance, who is barely brought up negatively if at all in the UN. Still, Israel maintains strong relationships with most nations on Earth, and let's be blunt: The ones they lack relations with aren't causing them to suffer. Do you really think they care if Pakistan fails to recognize them? Granted, they'd love to establish relations, but it's not so vital that they'd throw themselves at their feet begging for relations. Still, with the relations they have, Israel works to maintain those relations and I think most of the world leaders recognize that things aren't so simple for Israel. Israel proves itself to be worth keeping, so they're not concerned especially when those who see the bigger picture realize that it's not the demonic caricature most paint it as.

    Israel is pushed to respond and you may find it disproportionate, but at least recognize that they're not doing this solely because they want to. With how much they have to spend on defense, it really isn't something they can do or justify to themselves without good reason. They forfeit tactical advantages to make sure people get out, and other military leaders have commented that no one goes to the lengths Israel does to minimize collateral damage. Ethnic cleansing claims, at least in modern claims, are a joke: The Palestinian population has not grown as strongly as they have under Israeli administration. Granted, some of it is general medicine getting better...but increases are directly related to Israel's presence, indicating that they have access to their medicine and hospitals. Israel cares about peace, which is lost on people who fail to understand the big picture.

    Israel would end the occupation if they thought it would lead to a VIABLE peace. As I've said before, polling has shown that Palestinians are unfortunately not open to peace, and looking at their leadership you'll find that any Palestinian leader pushing it is only doing so in English (and not in Arabic) and that their rhetoric is empty. It's only to appease international donors. Israel was willing to pull out from the Palestinian territories, making offers they could not renege on if accepted...and it was turned down, without a counter offer. It was nearly everything the Palestinian leadership claimed to want. The government in Israel at the time would've followed through, and that was proven when years later they withdrew from Gaza. That was a DISASTER, so land-for-peace was shown to not be the answer. They need more, which goes counter against those who blindly think that such things will somehow end the conflict. It won't, and pandering to blind "occupation" rhetoric will not help them especially when it comes to all-or-nothing terrorist groups and their donors using them as proxies.

    • Robert
      Lv 6
      5 months agoReport

      A final comment on the term "occupation": Most people understand the term "occupation" (in this context) to mean "illegal occupation", whether or not the word "illegal" is added. (Example: References to the Nazi occupation of France in 1940 do not require that additional word !)

  • 5 months ago

    Nobody likes Jews.They've been kicked out of over 100 times from many countries for a reason.They're highly anti-European,but they don't move to non-European countries probably because they can't blend in with the host populations.

    • Tina
      Lv 7
      5 months agoReport

      @LM You and Terry are both liars, and spreaders of hate. Aren't you ashamed of yourselves?

  • 5 months ago

    Man,

    Asrael is very vulnerable and both will hurt the temporary state.

    As simple minded said the Ayrabs became zionists specially the gay prince MBS the boyfriend for Jared kuchner.

    Both Saudi kingdom and Asrael will collapse surprisingly on Palis hands

  • 5 months ago

    Such Ay-rab question...

    It explain the member who is at level 1 with 3 points and who has about 3,000 answers...

    Answer Backlash, it would mean Arabs rockets don't destroy innocent Israelis and their children

    Answer Rockets, it would mean Ay-rabs continue destroying Israel with another form of terrorism.

    What else Ay-rabs could give to the world?

    I just repeat what former Egyptian President Saadat said:

    "Present day "Palestinians would be remembered same as ancient Palestinians:- Enemies of Jews"...

    Nothing else to remember.

    • Simple Simon
      Lv 6
      5 months agoReport

      I see Bravo Sierra used 4 of his accounts to give thumb down.
      Who is the 5th?
      Greeting to you, Abdul E.

  • 5 months ago

    International backlash is a greater threat. Palestinian rockets kill people and make headlines but they don't really pose any threat to Israel's existence.

  • arther
    Lv 4
    5 months ago

    Jews make me sick. Tax evasion is a crime ever seen a Jew pay its fair share of taxes?

    • arther
      Lv 4
      5 months agoReport

      Pay your taxes get your greedy snouts out of the government trough. You are all scabs.

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