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Anonymous asked in Politics & GovernmentGovernment · 8 years ago

Isnt the great United States the ultimate democracy?

Not only do they vote on their President they vote on the candidates for that great office?

No dealing between men in grey suits,or even women in grey suits (Mrs Thatcher would have looked cool in a grey suit) for them,their candidates are choosen in the open. But could we expect any other but that the child of Britain would see greatness while her parent in her retirement looks back at greater days and greater deeds.

Update:

Question mark at the bottom does talk nonsense surely? A republic means it doesnt have a king or queen.A democracy means they allow freedom of speech and there are voting rights. America has both of these.

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  • 8 years ago
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    US citizens do not elect the president. The electoral college elects the president. It is the States who decide the president. The people only vote in an advisory manner. It is possible, and its happened several times, where the president elected by the people is not elected by the electoral college and placed in office. The last example of this was when Bush and Gore ran against each other in 2000. Bush had 50,456,002 votes and Gore had 50,999,897. The Office of the President is not designed to represent the people of the US. The Office of the President is designed to represent the collective of the States.

    ADDITIONAL DETAILS*****************

    Even though nearly every politician, teacher, journalist and citizen believes that our Founders created a democracy, it is absolutely not true. The Founders knew full well the differences between a Republic and a Democracy and they repeatedly and emphatically said that they had founded a republic.

    Article IV Section 4, of the Constitution "guarantees to every state in this union a Republican form of government".... Conversely, the word Democracy is not mentioned even once in the Constitution. Madison warned us of the dangers of democracies with these words,

    "Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths...",

    "We may define a republic to be ... a government which derives all its powers directly or indirectly from the great body of the people, and is administered by persons holding their offices during pleasure for a limited period, or during good behavior. It is essential to such a government that it be derived from the great body of the society, not from an inconsiderable proportion or a favored class of it; otherwise a handful of tyrannical nobles, exercising their oppressions by a delegation of their powers, might aspire to the rank of republicans and claim for their government the honorable title of republic." James Madison, Federalist No. 10, (1787)

    "A wise man will not leave the right to the mercy of chance, nor wish it to prevail through the power of the majority. There is but little virtue in the action of masses of men." Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)

    Our military training manuals used to contain the correct definitions of Democracy and Republic. The following comes from Training Manual No. 2000-25 published by the War Department, November 30, 1928.

    DEMOCRACY:

    A government of the masses.

    Authority derived through mass meeting or any other form of "direct" expression.

    Results in mobocracy.

    Attitude toward property is communistic--negating property rights.

    Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate, whether is be based upon deliberation or governed by passion, prejudice, and impulse, without restraint or regard to consequences.

    Results in demogogism, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy.

    REPUBLIC:

    Authority is derived through the election by the people of public officials best fitted to represent them.

    Attitude toward law is the administration of justice in accord with fixed principles and established evidence, with a strict regard to consequences.

    A greater number of citizens and extent of territory may be brought within its compass.

    Avoids the dangerous extreme of either tyranny or mobocracy.

    Results in statesmanship, liberty, reason, justice, contentment, and progress.

    Is the "standard form" of government throughout the world.

    The manuals containing these definitions were ordered destroyed without explanation about the same time that President Franklin D. Roosevelt made private ownership of our lawful money (US Minted Gold Coins) illegal. Shortly after the people turned in their $20 gold coins, the price was increased from $20 per ounce to $35 per ounce. Almost overnight F.D.R., the most popular president this century (elected 4 times) looted almost half of this nation's wealth, while convincing the people that it was for their own good

  • Joan
    Lv 4
    4 years ago

    The United States. Democratic status. Was the source of the controversy at Valley Forge. The founding fathers were democratic. The people who wanted a republic almost starved the entire American army out to prove their point. Then it was set up as a democracy for the people and Thomas Jefferson ended up speaking a lot about it. Then these losers called the puratins came in, representing the republic (big businesses). They fought for almost 100 years to reverse the constitution and all the equal rights stuff. Now you see it, they still try to make it a nazi or king james state. But most of what they have done is public. Because of their joker mentality, now many huge financial industry based entities have more power then people and actually contradict what America stands for. America is supposed to be a democracy, but because of the corrupt idiots who took unrestrained actions. Some things like the federal government. Even though they are a corporation. As a ruling body. It's just a mish mash of good people and dirty people who support business over people.

  • 8 years ago

    Id say that the US is no more a great democracy than anyone else. My knowledge of the process seems to suggest that though candidates for office can come from walk of life, its highly unlikely that anyone outside the mainstream political establishment with pots of money will ever succeed in gaining

    high office. In the US money buys political influence which to me isn't denudes the democratic process and adds a layer of corruption by dollar influence.

  • 8 years ago

    Since democracy arrived in ancient Greece where three thousand slaves existed to every voter, and since democracy is controlled by party managers in the style of a vast corporation and by vested interests, yes, the USA seems to be the most remarkable form of 'democracy' ever known to mankind. Some say it should be exported to other countries.

    I think democracy is moonshine.

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  • andy
    Lv 7
    8 years ago

    No, we are usually considered the best Republic. There is no major Nation that is a true Democracy since with how complex the World is, the average Citizen can not keep up with everything.

  • 8 years ago

    The United States is NOT a democracy never has been we are a republic.

  • Blitz
    Lv 4
    8 years ago

    If democracy includes corporations and lobby groups with the most money calling the shots, then yes, the USA is the ultimate democracy on earth

  • Philip
    Lv 6
    8 years ago

    As far as democracy goes, it seem's that they still have a long

    way to go. I saw with my own eye's on tv recently, peaceful

    protester's being pepper sprayed by the very people that had

    swore to serve and protect them.

    Source(s): BBC NEWS
  • 8 years ago

    I always thought the primaries were based on the principle of "Let the richest man win".

  • Anonymous
    8 years ago

    Probably not. The lord of the flies is more a democracy than what we "yanks" have here, son.

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