why do Christians lie aboutn the 3 kings/ Magais visiting jesus ?
Scripture does not state the number of magi. It is added later by Christians because that is the number of gifts—gold and frankincense and myrrh—presented to the Christ Child. Really there could have been any number of magi visiting Christ.Nor does it say they were kings.
Of twenty translations surveyed, thirteen referred to the magi as "wise men" (asv, cev, Douay-Rheims, esv, hcsb, kjv, ncv, net, njb, nkjv, nlt, nrsv, and rsv), five called them "magi" or "mages" (Darby, nasb, niv, tniv, and ylt), J.B. Phillips names them "astrologers," and the Message, "a band of scholars."
Luke tells us that shepherds visited the Christ Child in the manger (Luk 2:8-20), but there is no mention of the magi at this point
Then they are given names of Caspar, Melchior, and Balthasar. The earliest reference to these names is from Excerpta Latina Barbari, which is a Latin translation of an early sixth century Greek manuscript. The names seem to be purely tradition as they do not have an early witness. Some consider them from Persia ( North of Palestine), yet the Bible says they came from the East ?
Is the Bible the true word of God ?
- Anonymous9 years agoFavourite answer
I don't know about the Latin translation you spoke of but you are right there were not "Three Wise men," there were three gifts given to Jesus buy the wise men. I never understood how they got three wise men out of that, I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who thought about this.
- Anonymous9 years ago
1) Scripture does not state the number of magi.
Agreed. However, those who claim "3" (and certainly not all Christians do so) can only be "lying" if there were not 3.
So: are those who claim "3" lying - or are you?
2) Nor does it say they were kings.
Agreed - but the same reasoning applies. Do you know that they were not kings? If not, who is lying here?
3) The names seem to be purely tradition as they do not have an early witness.
Agreed. Notice the careful language (correctly so) of this sentence that you've obviously quoted from some source: it does not say, "The people who give their names are liars." It uses the very important word "seem" because the author of that quote does not have certain knowledge of what he claims, and the author does not accuse of falsehood those who make a claim that he cannot disprove.
4) Some consider them from Persia ( North of Palestine), yet the Bible says they came from the East ?
Inaccurate. Persia in Jesus' time and in modern times is primarily East of Palestine (though for a while Persia actually controlled Palestine). In Jesus' time and before, it was known as the Parthian Empire (you can see how close the name is to "Persian").
The **main** or "central" capital of the Parthian Empire in Jesus' time was Ctesiphon. The coordinates are (approximately) 33 degrees N, 45 degrees E. Jerusalem is 32 degrees N, 35 degrees E. In other words, the Persian capital was practically due East of Jerusalem!
Yes: the Bible is the true word of God.
- Tom LLv 79 years ago
Some consider them from Persia ( North of Palestine), yet the Bible says they came from the East ?
Persia is north of Palestine? Where did you get that odd idea?
The Persian heartland is due EAST of Palestine. Look at any map of the period, or look at a modern map showing Iran in relation to Palestine - Today's Iran is the ancient base of the Persian Empire, and the country was commonly called Persia well into the last century.
Such a glaring error in basic geography casts doubt on anything you said.
- 9 years ago
the Bible is the true word of God...and some people just say there were 3 because of that...we dont exactly know...we just know that there were some magi
Matthew 2:1-3 (New International Version, ©2011)
The Magi Visit the Messiah
1 After Jesus was born in Bethlehem in Judea, during the time of King Herod, Magi[a] from the east came to Jerusalem 2 and asked, “Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star when it rose and have come to worship him.”
3 When King Herod heard this he was disturbed, and all Jerusalem with him.
it says "we" so we know there was more than one but you are right we dont know exactly how many there were....but it doesnt really matterSource(s): the Bible
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- goodluckwithhatLv 79 years ago
Why does it matter? Geesh!
He wasn't a baby when they visited, but from 1 to 3 years old. I can't understand how you could let something so small get in the way of believing. It sounds like you're looking for excuses not to believe rather than actually looking into it. People can do that with just about everything that's been written.
- JaManLv 59 years ago
Get over it. What? do you think that both stories couldn't have happened at the same time? the shepherds and the 3 kings?
While the three Kings were on their way to see baby Jesus, Angels visited the shepherds...
Try not to stumble over every detail and hurt yourself.
3 names = 3 people genius.
- San MiguelLv 79 years ago
The whole Christian religion is man-made, with nary a spark of divinity in it. How could a book chock-full of contradictions be the inerrant word of ANY omnipotent, omniscient, and omni-powerful supernatural being? Most of what's written in the Bible is also historically inaccurate, which would not be the case if "God" actually wrote it or "inspired" men to write it.
Google "The Skeptics Annotated Bible," where you will be directed to every single contradiction found in the Bible (and the Koran and the Book of Mormon). May the light of REASON shine upon you.
- BalanceDragonLv 69 years ago
Actually, Magi is plural for magus. Magus did and do study astrology, divination, spirits, and most chiefly practice magic. In fact, according to the bible, they FORETOLD his birth.
As most christians hate and fear magic and those who practice it, they often have little to comment upon on this topic. I find it ironic.
- Anonymous9 years ago
You are right. Many people do not realize this fact. Mostly because they have not read the account in their Bibles. They have accepted traditions created by humans rather than investigating and seeing what the Bible really teaches.
My hat is off to you, for accepting the Bible's account.
- Anonymous9 years ago
I also heard he could not have been a baby at the time of the visit.