Does the bible say that the sun revolves around the earth?
Joshua Chapter 10: 12-13 KJV
12Then spake Joshua to the LORD in the day when the LORD delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon.
13And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.
So, according to god's word, the sun stood still, not the earth?
I'm not worried about what human's thought, I'm more concered with what god thought. This is his word, is it not? Wouldn't he know that the earth is what is moving?
Sure, the sun does revolve within the galaxy, but I'm talking about within the solar system silly pants.
Second question is this, how did they know it didn't go down for about a whole day if the sun was sitting still??? How could they tell time, lol.
Ann, it clearly says that the sun stood still. In those times, they believed the sun circled the earth, hence he asked the sun to stay still.
Third question is this: If Joshua had command over the movement of the sun and moon, why didn't he just command the enemy to fall down dead instead?
- 9 years agoBest answer
See Ecclesiastes 1:5.
But don't take it as meaning the Bible considers the earth to be a planet. According to the Bible the earth is a flat, immovable disk.
According to Ecclesiastes 1:5 the sun actually goes around the earth--as, of course, it must, since, according to Ps 93:1, Ps 96:10, and 1 Chr 16:30, the earth does not move. And the earth cannot move because, according to 1 Samuel 2:8 and Ps 75:3, it is placed on pillars. And because it is placed on pillars, it has an underside and an upper side, as confirmed by Isaiah 40:22 which indicates that the earth is a flat disk.
(The Hebrew word translated as "circle" in Isaiah 40:22 is chuwg, which means "circle" not "sphere." Strong's Concordance: "circle"..."describe a circle." Hebrew and Aramaic Lexicon of the Old Testament: "Circle...the earth conceived as a disc, Is 40:22." Hebrew-Aramaic and English Lexicon of the Old Testament: "draw round, make a circle." If a sphere were meant, the Hebrew word duwr would have been used.)
Since the biblical earth is flat, it has an underside and under the earth is the abyss, which is referred to several times in the Bible. That is also what is being referred to in Job 26:7 when it says that the earth hangs over nothing. (The original Hebrew word translated as "upon" in that passage in the KJV also means "over.") The actual sphere of the earth in space is not "suspended' or "hanging" "over" or "upon" nothing. It is orbiting the sun at 66,700 miles per hour.
There are several other verses in the Bible indicating the earth is flat, such as Nebuchadnezzar's vision in Dan 4:10-11 (if it were not flat the tree could not be seen from all the earth), and Dan 2:28 states that the visions of Nebuchadnezzar are from God. If the biblical god says the biblical earth is flat, it must be flat.
The original Hebrew word translated as firmament is raqiya, which is a noun derived from the Hebrew word raqa. That word is a verb meaning "to beat out," and is used in the bible in reference to beating out metal into plates or expanses of the metal (as in Exodus 39:3). So raqiya, as a noun, would literally mean "that which is beaten out."
The idea is that the firmament, or sky, is a solid, beaten out expanse or vault set on the rim of the flat disk of the earth. This understanding is confirmed in Job 37:18, which states:
"Can you beat out the vault of the skies as he does,
hard as a mirror of cast metal?" (New English Bible. .)
That idea is also implied in verses such as Deut 4:32:
"Ask now about the former days, long before your time, from the day God created man on the earth; ask from one end of the heavens to the other. Has anything so great as this ever happened, or has anything like it ever been heard of?"
The "ends of heaven" would be the base of the vault of heaven where it rests on the rim of the disk of the earth.
There, the Hebrew word translated as "beat out" (or "spread out" in other versions) is, as noted above, raqa. See also Ps 19:1-6, Isaiah 13:4-5, and Matt 24:31.
Also, the stars in the biblical cosmos are just lights set in the firmament. As mere lights in the sky, they will fall to the earth in the Last Days (Matt 24:29), something that is ridiculous considering the actual stars are other suns and many times larger than the earth.
So, according to the Bible the earth is a flat, immovable disk, supported by pillars and covered with a solid vault of heaven, the rim of which is is resting on the perimeter of the disk of the earth, and the stars are just lights set in the vault of heaven.
For a graphic of the biblical cosmos, see the illustration here (click on the page 190 link and pull the page down if necessary).
That this is the correct view of the biblical cosmos is shown by the fact that it describes a structure with parts that are fully consistent with each other. That structural consistency indicates that it accurately represents the cosmos as conceived by the ancient Hebrews and as its writers incorporated that view in the Bible.
Moreover, according to the Bible, earth is the centerpiece of creation, and in the Last Days the biblical god will destroy the earth and the heavens as part of his plan for mankind.
That is ridiculous considering that the difference between the size of the earth and the size of the universe is even greater than the difference between the size of a hydrogen atom and the size of the earth.
It is therefore the height of geocentric idiocy to think that the whole universe was created merely for the sake of the earth and its inhabitants. All of which goes to show that the Bible cannot be considered the word of God.
- Te RexLv 69 years ago
These verses seem to be a fragment or extract taken from some other and independent source and inserted into the thread of the narrative after it had been completed, and inserted most probably by another hand than that of the author of the Book of Joshua.
In the sight of Israel - literally, “before the eyes of Israel,” i. e. in the sight or presence of Israel, so that the people were witnesses of his words. (Compare Deu_31:7.)
Sun, stand thou still - literally, as margin, “be silent” (compare Lev_10:3); or rather, perhaps, “tarry,” as in 1Sa_14:9.
Thou, moon - The words addressed to the moon as well as to the sun, indicate that both were visible as Joshua spoke. Below and before him, westward, was the valley of Ajalon; behind him, eastward, were the hills around Gibeon. Some hours had passed, since in the early dawn he had fallen upon the host of the enemy, and the expression “in the midst of heaven” Jos_10:13 seems to import that it was now drawing toward mid-day, though the moon was still faintly visible in the west. If the time had been near sunset, Joshua would have seen the sun, not, as he did, eastward of him, but westward, sinking in the sea.
The valley of Ajalon - i. e. “the valley of the gazelles.” This is the modern Merj Ibn Omeir, described by Robinson, a broad and beautiful valley running in a westerly direction from the mountains toward the great western plain. The ancient name is still preserved in Yalo, a village situated on the hill which skirts the south side of the valley.
Book of Jasher - i. e. as margin, “of the upright” or “righteous,” a poetical appellation of the covenant-people (compare “Jeshurun” in Deu_32:15, and note; and compare Num_23:10, Num_23:21; Psa_111:1). This book was probably a collection of national odes celebrating the heroes of the theocracy and their achievements, and is referred to again (marginal reference) as containing the dirge composed by David over Saul and Jonathan.
About a whole day - i. e. about twelve hours; the average space between sunrise and sunset.
Joshua’s return (compare Jos_10:43) to Gilgal was not until after he had, by the storm and capture of the principal cities of south Canaan, completed the conquest of which the victory at Gibeon was only the beginning.
This verse is evidently the close of the extract from an older work, which connected the rescue of Gibeon immediately with the return to Gilgal, and omitted the encampment at Makkedah Jos_10:21, and also the details given in Jos_10:28-42.
- balsamoLv 43 years ago
activity 38:13 says the earth is flat. activity 38:4 says the earth is table sure, too. there is likewise a narrative with regard to the solar no longer placing throughout an prolonged day of conflict in Joshua. It feels like the earth stopped rotating, something i locate no longer basic to have faith. i do no longer think of the outdated testomony writers have been professionals in Astronomy by any potential. cutting-area Bible scholars would desire to come again up with long rationalizations for such medical errors.
- Anonymous9 years ago
1) Does the bible say that the sun revolves around the earth?
No more than you do when you employ the term "sunrise" or the phrase 'the rising of the Sun". So: do you say that the Sun revolves around the Earth? Do you say that the Earth stands still and the Sun moves about it?
Interestingly, according to the theory of relativity, the Sun does, indeed, revolve around the Earth (as every human's frame of reference - excepting the astronauts aboard the space station - have the Earth as their frame of reference).
2) how did they know it didn't go down for about a whole day if the sun was sitting still??? How could they tell time
The key word here is "about". Are you telling me that it is **impossible** for you to estimate the passage of time if you do not have a way of marking its passing?
3) If Joshua had command over the movement of the sun and moon, why didn't he just command the enemy to fall down dead instead?
Obviously, the only way to discover the answer to that would be to ask Joshua himself.
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- Annsan_In_HimLv 79 years ago
No, it does not say that.
The example you cite is of divine intervention to enable Joshua and his army to complete the battle without a time constraint. Time stood still, as it were, until the battle had been won. The account is written from the point of view of people standing on the Earth, looking up at the sun and the moon. We all know that the sun and the moon move across the sky during the course of the day and the night. That is all that this passage is stating - miraculously, the sun and the moon appeared to be stationary in the sky. Time stood still. God was attributed with having miraculously enabled Israel to fight on without the normal intervention of night forcing them to stop fighting as they were gaining the upper hand.
- Anonymous9 years ago
That is what Martin Luther said to Nicolas Copernicus.
Actually, there is a third alternative. I think that something happened to the light on its way from the Sun to the Earth.
Those passages of scripture are talking about physical laws.
"The bible also says that bats are birds, mustard seed is the smallest seed and that donkeys can talk."
A better translation would be that bats are flying creatures. And no, the Bible does not say that donkeys can talk. The incident of the talking donkey in Numbers 22:28-30 was, I will say it to you slowly, a----m-i-r-a-c-l-e. A miracle is when God intervenes to do something which is scientifically impossible.
- 5 years ago
The Bible is man made. Yes, a goat herder.
- qxzqxzqxzLv 79 years ago
But the Sun does not stand still. Ask any astronomer. It revolves around the centre of the galaxy...
- Anonymous9 years ago
Yes, that is what the bronze age goat herders that wrote the bible thought.
- 9 years ago
the earth revolves around the sun. and the entire galaxy is flying through space at 135 miles and hour.
science is real and it disregards claims based in myth. rocket science, biology and germ theory disregard the bible as well. you get sick, you go to a hospital. science rules. the bible is magical nonsense.