Why don't Jehovahs witnesses Baptise in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit?

This is what Jesus told us to do:

NWT: Matthew 28:19

19 Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit

Jesus told you how to baptise people, quite straight forward, quite simple,

So why do you people say the following instead when it comes to baptism:

1) On the basis of the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, have you repented of your sins and dedicated yourself to Jehovah to do his will?

2) Do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of Jehovah's Witnesses in association with God's spirit-directed organization? (The Watchtower, April 1st 2006, pages 21-25)

Did Jesus tell people to ask them questions, when they get baptised?

Did Jesus get you to say yes to any questions to qaulify your baptism?

Jessu told us what to do, why don't you do it? Why add all those questions?

My question for you is this:

ARE YOU BAPTISED IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER THE SON AND THE HOLY SPIRIT, YES OR NO?

THANKS

Update:

What is the difference between what Jesus siad in Matthew 28:19 and the 2 baptism questions you have to answer?

AND if there is no difference, then why don't you Just repeat what Jesus siad, instead of inventing those 2 baptism Questions?

The Question is

ARE YOu baptised in the name of the Father The Son and the Holy Spirit, Yes or NO?

Update 2:

pocelain free masonic mind tricks have no effect on those who are Born again, Thanks

Update 3:

Porcelain How do you fulfil his command when you do not baptise with the words your Lord and Saviour gave you??

And if your questions are the same, then why change the words, why not use the words he gave?

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  • Anonymous
    10 years ago
    Favorite Answer

    They do repeat the formula at baptisms, declaring that the person is being baptised "In the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit." What JWs will not be so keen to tell the public, however, is that they make it abundantly clear to all prospective baptismal candidates prior to baptism, that to make such a declaration is NOT to profess belief in the Trinity doctrine. They instruct interested people that the Father is called Jehovah, the Son is called Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit is merely 'holy spirit', or energy from God, like electricity, supplies of which can be obtained by doing certain things. Thus, 'holy spirit' does not actually have a name, because only persons have names.

    That, in itself, proves their repetition of the baptismal formula to be invalid. No JW is ever baptised in the name (singular) of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. They can only ever be baptised in the name of Jehovah and in the name of Jesus Christ, according to their own theology.

  • ARCHIE
    Lv 4
    10 years ago

    Is Father a name?

    Is Son a name?

    Is Holy Ghost a name?

    Every time the Bible records the name or formula associated with an actual baptism in the New Testament church, it describes the name Jesus.

    "They were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus" (Acts 8:16).

    "And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord" (Acts 10:48).

    "They were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus" (Acts 19:5).

    Matthew 28:19 was a command by Jesus to baptize in the NAME. The Apostles did not repeat the word of the command, but they did obey it as seen in the scriptures above. Since Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are titles of the manifestations of the Almighty Spirit and His body, the Apostles understood His SAVING NAME to be JESUS. Can any dare say that the Apostles disobeyed the Lord, or failed to baptize properly? THE NAME OF THE FATHER, SON, AND HOLY GHOST IS LORD JESUS CHRIST. The actions of the Apostles in the Book of Acts prove this to be true.

    Should anyone dare to change what CHRIST and the Apostles established?(See Galatians 1:8-9)

    God bless!

    Archie

    Oneness Pentecostal

  • Yk
    Lv 4
    5 years ago

    The bible clearly and emphatically state any person, any sect, any religion that denies that Jesus is the Christ the Son of God is the enemy of God and his Son.

    1 John 2:21. I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth. 22.Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

  • 10 years ago

    It's called George Orwellian "double think." And here's how it works:

    Face value meaning:/// Actually meaning:

    1) Baptized in name of Father./// Baptized in name of Jehovah

    2) Baptized in name of Son./// Baptized in the name of Michael archangel

    3) Baptized in name of holy spirit/// Baptized in name of impersonal electricity from

    God.

    After all this they are really baptized into an organization. But don't tell that to the Initiates.

    • Sofia
      Lv 6
      3 years agoReport

      This is clever, and a true answer.

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  • 10 years ago

    We do get baptized in the name of the Father, the son, and the holy spirit.

    How do you justify claiming to be Christian when you don't "GO, MAKE DISCIPLES"?

    I forgot that's the hard part so you people don't do that.

  • Val W
    Lv 4
    10 years ago

    I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses and yes, I was baptized in the name of the Father, and of the the Son and of the the Holy Spirit.

    The confusion that is going on here is one that has come out of misunderstanding.

    For example, one of the answers here suggests that Witnesses do you make it publicly known that we do not believe in, profess or promote the Trinity Doctrine. That is entirely false, we make that abundantly clear in our brochure Should You Believe in the Trinity? which is available to anyone who cares to read it - free of charge. We also cover that same information in the book What Does The Bible Really Teach (a publication also available to anyone who would care to read it - free of charge)

    Witness publications explain why we do not believe in the trinity. There is no secret that we are keeping from anyone there.

    The mistake many are making here is a result of having been taught that true Christianity requires Constantine's trinity doctrine. Having come to believe that, people understand the statement made by Jesus to mean that we are to be baptized in the name of the trinity doctrine.

    Not so.

    When a police officer says "Stop! In the name of the law!" what does that mean?

    It means that his order to stop is given under the authority of the law of the land.

    Might there be different meaning to Jesus words than the ones many here have been conditioned to understand as a trinity?

    Witness Baptismal candidates answer the two questions about their baptism that they have the authority to answer- They are answering to show publicly (like brides and grooms do when they say "I do" at a wedding) that their choice to be baptized is one they are making of their own free will and that they understand what they are doing.

    What it means to be baptized in the name of the Father, Son and holy spirit is explained very clearly in the talk that proceeds their being asked those questions. All being baptized, and those in attendance (unless conditioned by a pagan trinity doctrine) understand that Jesus was not speaking of a trinity doctrine when he spoke those words.

    It is the nature of most humans to look at something that conflicts with what they have believed for years and years and dismiss it as false because of the conflict with their beliefs... but what if the trinity doctrine really was introduced into Christianity in around 300 CE? (That surely could be verified through secular history right?)

    What if it really was not part of Christianity prior to that?

    What if the reason so many Christian churches teach the trinity is really because they have all, at times past, splintered off of the church that started that doctrine way back in the 300s?

    Well, if that were so, then Satan really would have done his job of misleading the entire inhabited earth really well (Rev 12:9)

    Surely, the most popular "Christian doctrines" in a world that Satan is ruling (2Cor 4:4; John 12:31;John 14:30;John 16:11;Acts 26:18; Eph 2:2;1Jo 5:19) would be false doctrines intended to prevent people from ever knowing the truth about God and his son ...

    People who represented the bible as it was intended by God would be lied about, misrepresented and persecuted (Mat 5: 10,11; Jo 15:20)

    And, as Jesus commanded, those who represented the bible as God intended would be preaching and teaching in the entire inhabited earth for a Witness to all the nations - before the end would come (Mat 24:14)

    Perhaps the trinity doctrine was part of what Paul wrote to Timothy about at 1Tim 4:1... It really did show up several centuries after Paul wrote this...

    Given that Satan is a master of deception, would it not be wise to carefully check, even what we are convinced of? Even what we are completely SURE is absolutely true?

    Source(s): You can find answers about the beliefs of Jehovah's Witnesses at http://www.watchtower.org For biblical answers to many common questions visit: http://watchtower.org/e/archives/index.htm#bible_v...
  • Anonymous
    10 years ago

    Every Witness that says that they Baptize in the name of the Father Son and Holy Spirit are bold faced lying. I was baptized as follows:

    The Jehovah's Witnesses

    Practice of Baptism

    © Spotlight Ministries, Vincent McCann, 2007

    www.spotlightministries.org.uk

    Baptism for a Jehovah's Witness differs quite noteably to that of other churches and Christian groups. This brief article will identify five areas where there are significant differences. In addition to differing with Christianity in this practice, despite claiming to follow the Bible in all areas, the Jehovah's Witness practice of baptism actually has many aspects to it that cannot be found in the Bible. These five areas are outlined below:

    1 - Before baptism, one must answer over 80 questions to the satisfaction of local Kingdom Hall elders (see the Watchtower book: Organized to Accomplish Our Ministry for the 80 questions at the back of the book). This book can be viewed online at: http://www.jwsreunited.com/organized.pdf).

    2 - Baptism never tends to be something that is ever rushed into. Generally, a significant period of time passes whereby, in the meantime, the likely candidate will get through a fair amount of Watchtower literature.

    In contrast to this, when one reads through the account of the early Church in the book of Acts, we find that not only did believers not have to go through "book studies" and undergo a series of questions before elders, but they were often baptised at the very instance that they believed in Jesus (e.g. Acts 2:41; 8:12, 36-38; 9:18; 10:47; 16:14-15, 33; 18:18). Some Jehovah's Witnesses may object that there are also Christian churches that discourage people from being baptised straight away as well. While this is probably so, it must be stressed that the difference here is that if a Christian wants to be baptised straight away, he or she can do so. Jehovah's Witnesses are not given that option.

    3 - Being baptised into an "Organisation" rather than the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit (as Jesus commanded in Matthew 28:19). Jehovah's Witnesses entering into baptism are asked the following questions:

    "1) On the basis of the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, have you repented of your sins and dedicated yourself to Jehovah to do his will?

    2) Do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of Jehovah's Witnesses in association with God's spirit-directed organization? (The Watchtower, April 1st 2006, pages 21-25)

    It is incredible (and shocking) that such a formula can be proclaimed when one considers Jesus' words to baptise in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit at Matthew 28:19 and to blatantly go against this. One can only assume that part of this refusal to follow Jesus' words is: 1. Because the formula of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit simply sounds too Trinitarian for the Watchtower to follow 2. The Watchtower formula basically has the Jehovah's Witness dedicating him or herself to an Organisation rather than simply to God alone. This inclusion of the organisation is in line with the wider emphasis and allegiance that Jehovah's Witnesses give to the Watchtower organisation in many other areas of their lives too.

    Other aspects of the Jehovah’s Witness baptismal practice also tend to differ from the baptismal practices of other Bible related groups.

    4 - Jehovah’s Witness baptisms are usually always done at the large conventions of the movement. But when one looks at the biblical model, and the practice of modern day Christians, the actual location of baptism is rarely an issue (e.g. Acts 8:36-39). For example, some Christians will choose to be baptized at a location which may have special personal significance to them, such as a beach, etc.

    5 - Jehovah’s Witness baptism appears to be predominantly done by various leaders in the movement at these events (elders, etc). Although Christian baptism is also done largely by leaders in churches (pastors, elders, etc), there is no biblical command stating that this must be the case. Therefore, many Christians are often baptised by Christian friends and laymen.

  • danman
    Lv 6
    10 years ago

    They perform baptisms legalistically:

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    One of the two questions asked baptismal candidates is as follows:

    2) Do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of Jehovah's Witnesses in association with God's spirit-directed organization? (The Watchtower, April 1st 2006, pages 21-25)

    "It is incredible (and shocking) that such a formula can be proclaimed when one considers Jesus' words to baptize in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit at Matthew 28:19 and to blatantly go against" this is affirmation of cult like behavior.

    This one little question answered in the affirmative by the individual taking the dedication oath, is enough to insure the Watchtower Bible and Tract Societies full control over religious matters in this persons future.

    The legal department in Brooklyn knows why they changed the wording to include this non biblical question. It simply cements the right to take any kind of religious action they deem appropriate.

    They can now with almost impunity, dis fellowship, disassociate, shun, discipline, harass, keep tight religious control, over this person.

    This one little "inaccuracy" subjects all those taking such a oath of dedication to the full might and authority of this cult for life. Yes for life. If you ever decide they WTBS are wrong and decide to leave the cult, you will be prohibited from contact with your believing family members, your former jw friends. It they go against their own oath of dedication, they too will be disfellowshiped or shunned.

  • 10 years ago

    First your confussing Babtism and Dedication, First you pray privately to Jehovah through our savior Jesus Christ and telling him of your desicson to give your life to do his will, as Acts 2:38 states, second you get babtised to show to others that you have made this dedication when you do this you are babtised in the name of the Father and the Son as for the holy spirit this is different type of dedication this is like what happened at pentacost 33 C.E. when tongues as if of fire became visible to them and sat upon each of them and they were filled with holy spirit and they started speaking in tongues (languages so they preach the good news to all other peoples and languages )

    Source(s): Acts2:2-4 (Gods power can be destibuted in any way he sees fit)
  • 10 years ago

    I was baptized in the name of the father and the son and the holy spirit as Jehovah's witness, those questions happen while standing in the pew. the words I baptize you in the name of the father son and holy spirit happen in the water as you get dunked, I heard them.

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