Jehovah's Witnesses: is it to late for anyone else to be like you and be saved through Armageddon?
A friend of mine's boss, who is a Witness, cornered him last week and told him that the world was ending so soon, that it was to late for him.
I told him that if that was the case, why do JW's still go door to door?
As a kid I remember there was some talk of the preaching work stopping and the JW's preaching "The Judgement", i.e., "to late for you, you gonna die!!" I remember talking to an elder in 1970 and he was talking about that, thought I do not remember reading anything about it.
Is that still the plan? The "door of the Ark being sealed" type thing?
Let us know when that happens so we can look forward to no more weekend morning interuptions.
Seriously, is the "preaching of the judgement" the plan now?
Madmoiselle Claire: typical Witness misinterpretation. I'm asking. Did you bother reading the question?
anastasiasnewhandle, good question.
Camdon: I is apostate big time
Jason: Great link. Jason's link shows where the Watchtower Society simultaneously was saying differant things about the 1914 generation.
- 1 decade agoFavourite answer
Brothers!!! Surely we rejoice to know that "Deliverance is at Hand"!!! How grateful we are that the Faithful and Discreet Slave has given us such timely warning!!! This 2006 District Convention is certainly 'Food at the Proper Time'!!!
Other "timely reminders" can be found in earlier Watchtower Magazines:
APRIL 1, 1997. (p.11)
The increasingly difficult conditions on earth are striking evidence that a vast change—indeed, a grand deliverance—is near at hand! For whom? Deliverance is nearing for those who pay attention to the warning signals and who take appropriate action.
MAY 1, 1993. (p.26)
While we eagerly await the revelation of our Lord Jesus Christ, let us show zeal in telling others about God’s loving Kingdom promises. Deliverance is at hand!
OCTOBER 1, 1982. (p.28)
This requires a true Christian today to be a person of strong faith in the Almighty God and his promises to the faithful ones. The “deliverance” that is now at hand for persons of such faith is not initially the heavenly glorification of the remnant of the spirit-begotten disciples of Christ and their being taken away from the earthly scene of tribulation, although that is in store for them finally. Rather, the “deliverance” is the putting of a stop to the wars, famines, pestilences, earthquakes and the rabid persecution of the true followers of the reigning King, Jesus Christ, this by the destruction of all enemies of Jehovah’s kingdom by Christ in the “war of the great day of God the Almighty” at what is called Har-Magedon.
APRIL 15, 1972. (p.233)
Mankind desperately needs a Liberator from these ruinous demonic heavens. Jehovah God has raised up the needed Deliverer! Jehovah’s marked time for the desired deliverance is at hand!
MARCH 15, 1967. (p.168)
True Christians can rejoice because God’s kingdom is near and deliverance from this wicked system of things is at hand.
JULY 1, 1959. (p.388)
Despite the woes that have come upon our generation, those who walk in the light from God can be happy. Deliverance is at hand.
OCTOBER 15, 1954. (p.624)
Instead of sobbing about the present anguish of nations and praying for its abatement, true Christians see that these turbulent times, indeed such calamities as famines, earthquakes and wars, are fulfillment of Bible prophecy pertaining to the sign of the “last days,” hence they rejoice, as Jesus said they should. (Luke 21:28) They rejoice because they know deliverance to a new world is at hand, that this present evil world must end in that “great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again,” namely, the war of Armageddon.
OCTOBER 15, 1949. (p.307)
Deliverance and release have come! Jehovah’s witnesses can testify to that. So on with the song in a continual crescendo, that more and more people may hear the message which tells of the fuller and complete deliverance and release so near at hand for all men of good-will!
OCTOBER 1, 1941. (p.303)
These see it is their privilege now to be his witnesses, and to declare his name and his glory in the earth. As his witnesses these faithful ones the great Jehovah God bids to go and tell the glad news to the sorrowing world, and to advise mankind that Jehovah is God, that Christ Jesus is the King of kings, and that the day of deliverance is at hand.
JANUARY 1, 1940. (p.10)
For some time many of God’s people have said, and say: "Oh that the salvation of Israel [spiritual Israel] were come out of Zion !" (Ps. 14: 7) Let all such who have hope and who look for salvation now rejoice because the day of deliverance is at hand. By faith we now see the climax of Armageddon and, like David, continue to say: "But I have trusted in thy mercy; my
heart shall rejoice in thy salvation."--Ps. 13:5.
DECEMBER 1, 1939. (p.363)
Jehovah is the King of Eternity. He has enthroned Christ Jesus, his King of the Theocratic
Government. Jehovah has appeared in his glory, and the day of deliverance is at hand for all those who flee to the Theocratic Government and give their allegiance and unselfish devotion to the Theocracy.
JULY 1, 1936. (p.195,196)
Let Jehovah’s witnesses now be strong in faith and bold in the warfare, knowing for a certainty that the day of deliverance is at hand.
SEPTEMBER 15, 1930. (p.281)
God has now given his people an understanding of The Revelation which he gave to Jesus Christ to
show unto his servants. The publication of the two books called Light, giving the explanation of The
Revelation, will greatly anger the Devil and all who have not the spirit of Christ. We may therefore ex-
pect the opposition to the kingdom to quickly become stronger than ever. It will be of short duration, however, because the day of deliverance is at hand. The remnant is now giving honor to Jehovah’s name by faithfully serving him. ‘
AUGUST 15, 1926. (p.248)
To this end the Lord is now sending forth a worldwide proclamation that the time of DELIVERANCE
is at hand.
JANUARY 1, 1921. (p.13)
Behold, the evidence daily increases that the old world has ended! The kingdom of heaven is here! Let the saints look up and lift up their heads. Let them sing aloud for joy because the day of deliverance is at hand.
AUGUST 1, 1918. (p. R6300)
In the clear light of unfolding time-prophecy, we see that we are now living at the very end of the reign of sin and death; that the night of sorrow, pain and tears is almost over; that the glorification of the 1ast members of the Christ body is very soon to be completed. Yes, beloved, "the night is far spent" [about ended] and the glorious day of deliverance and blessing is at hand. Even now the first faint streaks of dawn appear. Then let us cast away every encumberance, everything that would hinder us in the slightest degree in running successfully our glorious race. Let us press on with renewed vigor, looking neither to the right nor to the left, but keeping our eyes "fixed on the glory of the prize," and soon, please God, the victory shall be ours!
JUNE 1, 1910. (p. R4627)
Thank God for the great Deliverer; thank God also, for his great day of deliverance, the Millennial
age, now nigh at hand!
MAY 1, 1907 (p. R3990)
The Lord assures us, too, that he knows all about these matters and is very sympathetic, far more so than we, and he is both able and willing to grant the deliverance needed at the appropriate time. What confidence it gives us now when we look back and behold that Spiritual Israel has been preserved through all these centuries! that notwithstanding the fiery affliction and adversity that burned against them, they have not been consumed! How it comforts and cheers us now to hear the Lord's voice telling us of the deliverance that is just at hand, and sending by us his messages of love and power to all those who have and are to hear, and who are desirous of having liberty from the power of the world, the flesh and the Adversary.
NOVEMBER 1892. (p. R1464)
It is therefore his will rather that we should suffer injustice than that we should spend our strength in fruitless efforts to interrupt the present order of things. And so the kingdom of heaven suffers violence now, but such will not always be the case; for the time of her deliverance is at hand.
DECEMBER, 1881. (p. R302)
Let us, dearly beloved, see to it, that we not only bury ourselves and our wills in Christ's, but also keep our bodies under--dying daily until fully delivered into the blessed kingdom --which deliverance we believe to be so very nigh at hand.
SEPTEMBER, 1880. (p. R134)
Let us, dearly beloved, live up to our covenant, and not only bury ourselves and our wills in Christ's, but also keep our bodies under--dying daily until fully delivered into the blessed kingdom--which deliverance we believe to be so very nigh at hand.
BAAAARFFFF...sorry i just have to clean my monitor after reading that again.
- 1 decade ago
Hello, I don't know much about Armageddon except it will be the end of the infestation of evil on earth. I don't deny that is a good thought to keep in the mind because everyone can only dream about the paradise that Adam and Eve had. Today what it is, is what it is. None of us can stop evil except the God of the Universe. Now I am thinking a different sign from God before the war from heaven. I have learned that the whole world is under the occults because the governments (especially America), the churches (many of them) all go by this secret symbols that does not belong to God *I Am*. It is occult signs. The secret elites around the world *owns* the world. Every one waiting and looking for the anti christs and it is not in the religion but it is this *Elite* group that has control over the WHOLE world. No one knows who they are and that is because of *secrecy*. Any one knows and they tell, well no need even think what happens to them. I say God of the Universe will send a darkness over all the earth because darkness is what scares man (humans) the most. People will scatter like chickens with no heads. What happens after the darkness is over us; I don't know. I don't know yet how it will be. Scary yes; but believe me something is in our midst right now and some thing is gonna give soon. That is the reason why so many truths that was hidden is now being made open for all to see. Pay attention everyone. Get in harmony with the God of the Universe.
- AnastasiaLv 61 decade ago
In 1975, the JWs made a splash announcing the world was ending that year. Lives were ruined as members of the sect sold their property, their belongings and holed up waiting for the end of the world, which never came. Some people lost everything they owned. Many converted, convinced that it was the end of the world and the sect was right.
Sometime in the 80s, they tried again.
Then, it was 1999. It was quieter this time. My boss was a JW. When the date passed, I asked him how he felt to still be alive and had the society set a new date? He went pale and asked me how I knew about that. Then told me a new date hadn't been set.
What I want to know is, why do people still believe when all these Doomsday predictions have been so very, very wrong?
- Anonymous1 decade ago
It is never too late,In Revelation it even states that a Angel will fly in heaven preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ and many will turn around, has that angel preach already, it was too late also in 1914...
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- 1 decade ago
"For YOU know this first, that in the last days there will come ridiculers with their ridicule, proceeding according to their own desires and saying: “Where is this promised presence of his? Why, from the day our forefathers fell asleep [in death], all things are continuing exactly as from creation’s beginning.” 2 Peter 3:3,4
- keiichiLv 61 decade ago
You will have only two choices before Armageddon. Serve the 8th king and live a few extra years before being destroyed or serve God.
- Sherry BLv 51 decade ago
No one is preaching "it's too late"
- Anonymous1 decade ago
A key teaching of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society is that Armageddon will come before the passing of the "generation of 1914." Jehovah's Witnesses have long watched the aging of members who were alive in the year 1914, increasingly expecting Armageddon to occur as the elderly Witnesses pass away.
Unfortunately for these faithful Jehovah's Witnesses, the passing years have necessitated the Society's frequent redefinition of the year 1914.2 A brief chronology of some of these changes can be found below:
1889 - Charles Taze Russell, the founder of the Watchtower Society, teaches that Armageddon would occur in 1914.3
1950 - The Watchtower teaches that Christ returned to earth invisibly in 1914.4
1950 - The Watchtower emphasizes that the thirty-six years between 1914 and 1950 have drawn the world closer to Armageddon occurring before the generation alive in 1914 pass away.5
1961 - The Society states, "The foretold events having begun A.D. 1914, the generation of mankind that is still alive from that year is the generation meant by Christ."6
1967 - The Society changes the meaning of "generation" to include only those individuals who were alive in 1914 and able to view the events with understanding.7
1968 - The Society specifies that the age of understanding is 15 or older, meaning that Armageddon will occur before all those who were 15 or older in 1914 have passed away.8
1984 - The Society extends the "generation of 1914" to include all individuals who were babies during that year.9
1988 - The Society states that a biblical generation consists of 75 years.10 Thus, 75 years from 1914 comes to 1989, marking the potential end of that generation.
1988 - Later in 1988, the Society revises its definition of generation, referring to a range of 70-80 years. Thus, the "generation of 1914" could be extended until 1994.11
1995 - The Society redefines the term "generation of 1914" to refer to anyone who is alive at any time who can understand the spiritual significance of the date.12 The "generation of 1914" can thus be extended indefinitely into the future.
Objective readers may wonder how Jehovah's Witnesses can accept the validity of such widely varying doctrinal development. The Witnesses accept such changes because of the Society's emphasis on "new light."
Be in the Light
Jehovah's Witnesses attempt to avoid cognitive dissonance from the Society's contradictory teachings by believing in the revelatory stages of "new light" and "old light." David Reed, a former Jehovah's Witness, describes new light as "a revised teaching that replaces previously held ideas,"13 while old light is "a former teaching abandoned in favor of a new doctrinal viewpoint."14
Needless to say, Jehovah's Witnesses do not understand the terms quite so clearly. They do, however, believe that new light replaces old light without any inadequacy in the previous teaching. The December 1, 1981 issue of The Watchtower makes frequent references to "increasing [i.e., new] light," claiming that seeming doctrinal changes are simply a case of Jehovah continually illuminating the path to salvation. This teaching clearly underlies an analogy made by the Society to the nautical practice of tacking:
"It may have seemed to some as though [the theological path taken by the Watchtower Society] has not always gone straightforward. At times explanations given by Jehovah's visible organization have shown adjustments, seemingly to previous points of view. But this has not actually been the case. This might be compared to what is known in navigational circles as "tacking." By maneuvering the sails the sailors can cause a ship to go from right to left, back and forth, but all the time making progress toward their destination in spite of contrary winds. And that goal in view for Jehovah's servants is the 'new heavens and a new earth' of God's promise."15
In case any Witnesses should fail to be convinced by this analogy, the Society reinforces its right to change teachings by claiming,
Jehovah God has also provided his visible organization, his 'faithful and discreet slave,' made up of spirit-anointed ones, to help Christians in all nations to understand and apply properly the Bible in their lives. Unless we are in touch with this channel of communication that God is using, we will not progress along the road to life, no matter how much Bible reading we do.16
In other words, Christians who want to be saved must be faithful Jehovah's Witnesses, believing everything they are taught by Jehovah's "channel of communication."
Blinded by the Light
- 1 decade ago
u are a Apostate much