• Jehovah's Witnesses. How would an unbiased person come to your 1914 date?

    Say a person picks up a Bible and starts to compare it to history to see if the prophecies come true. They are able to do this successfully. Could this person reach Watchtower doctrine? How would they know they must argue the date of 607bc for the destruction of Jerusalem? Why would they think they have to add another interpretation to the... show more
    Say a person picks up a Bible and starts to compare it to history to see if the prophecies come true. They are able to do this successfully. Could this person reach Watchtower doctrine? How would they know they must argue the date of 607bc for the destruction of Jerusalem? Why would they think they have to add another interpretation to the prophecy of Daniel? Can someone just pick up a Bible and become a JW?
    8 answers · Religion & Spirituality · 2 months ago
  • Jehovah's Witnesses. What kind of thought process makes someone conclude that Jesus had appointed them over all his belongings?

    For decades the Governing Body of the Jehovah's Witnesses claimed that Jesus had appointed them over all his belongings. In 2013 they said this never happened. Why would they think that in the first place? And if it never happened, why did they proclaim to the world for decades that it did happen?
    For decades the Governing Body of the Jehovah's Witnesses claimed that Jesus had appointed them over all his belongings. In 2013 they said this never happened. Why would they think that in the first place? And if it never happened, why did they proclaim to the world for decades that it did happen?
    12 answers · Religion & Spirituality · 2 months ago
  • Why do ex Jehovah's Witnesses refer to themselves as the "Awake class"?

    Why would they consider that they were not awake, when they were being indoctrinated by a magazine called "Awake!"?
    Why would they consider that they were not awake, when they were being indoctrinated by a magazine called "Awake!"?
    9 answers · Religion & Spirituality · 2 months ago
  • Why do Jehovah's Witnesses believe Jesus is the Archangel Moroni?

    Show me one scripture that says Jesus is the Archangel Moroni.
    Show me one scripture that says Jesus is the Archangel Moroni.
    11 answers · Religion & Spirituality · 3 months ago
  • Why do Jehovah's Witnesses believe Joseph Smith was a prophet of God?

    Joseph Smith sent people out door to door. Jehovah's Witnesses go door to door. Why do Jehovah's Witnesses believe Joseph Smith was a prophet of God?
    Joseph Smith sent people out door to door. Jehovah's Witnesses go door to door. Why do Jehovah's Witnesses believe Joseph Smith was a prophet of God?
    11 answers · Religion & Spirituality · 3 months ago
  • How many Jehovah's Witnesses came to Bible Truths before meeting any Witnesses?

    There is one JW that claims to have "figured out" the truth about God and had questions about the Trinity doctrine" which are almost identical to Watchtower questions, 2 years before meeting any JWs. He never says exactly how he did all this figuring, but I'm sure he is perfectly honest about it. Yet the Watchtower says "We... show more
    There is one JW that claims to have "figured out" the truth about God and had questions about the Trinity doctrine" which are almost identical to Watchtower questions, 2 years before meeting any JWs. He never says exactly how he did all this figuring, but I'm sure he is perfectly honest about it. Yet the Watchtower says "We all need help to understand the Bible, and we cannot find the Scriptural guidance we need outside the "faithful and discreet slave" organization," (Watchtower, Feb. 15, 1981, p. 19)
    9 answers · Religion & Spirituality · 3 months ago
  • Jehovah's Witnesses. What is the name of this logical fallacy?

    Say a person asks a question about how the Governing Body could be the "faithful and discreet slave" appointed by Jesus in 1919. You respond by labeling the asker as an apostate, or an opposer. What is the name of this logical fallacy? "FALLACY NUMBER 1 Attacking the Person This type of fallacy attempts to disprove or discredit... show more
    Say a person asks a question about how the Governing Body could be the "faithful and discreet slave" appointed by Jesus in 1919. You respond by labeling the asker as an apostate, or an opposer. What is the name of this logical fallacy? "FALLACY NUMBER 1 Attacking the Person This type of fallacy attempts to disprove or discredit a perfectly valid argument or statement by making an irrelevant attack on the person presenting it. Consider an example from the Bible. Jesus Christ once endeavored to enlighten others regarding his coming death and resurrection. These were new and difficult concepts for his listeners. But rather than weigh the merits of Jesus’ teachings, some attacked Jesus himself, saying: “He has a demon and is mad. Why do you listen to him?”​—John 10:20; compare Acts 26:24, 25. How easy it is to label someone “stupid,” “crazy,” or “uninformed” when he or she says something we don’t want to hear. A similar tactic is to attack the person with a subtle dose of innuendo. Typical examples of this are: “If you really understood the matter, you wouldn’t have that point of view” or, “You only believe that because you’re told to believe it.” But while personal attacks, subtle and not so subtle, may intimidate and persuade, never do they disprove what has been said. So be alert to this fallacy!" Awake! 1990
    5 answers · Religion & Spirituality · 3 months ago
  • Why do Jehovah's witnesses take pride in preaching about the teaching of Jesus in Matthew 5:5 and 2 Peter 3:13?

    Proverbs 16:18 Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall. Proverbs 8:13 The fear of the Lord is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate. Proverbs 11:2 When pride cometh, then cometh shame: but with the lowly is wisdom Proverbs 13:10 Only by pride cometh contention: but... show more
    Proverbs 16:18 Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall. Proverbs 8:13 The fear of the Lord is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate. Proverbs 11:2 When pride cometh, then cometh shame: but with the lowly is wisdom Proverbs 13:10 Only by pride cometh contention: but with the well advised is wisdom. Proverbs 29:23 A man's pride shall bring him low: but honour shall uphold the humble in spirit.
    3 answers · Religion & Spirituality · 4 months ago
  • Jehovah's Witnesses. Which of your beliefs will need to be further "clarified"?

    I have asked this question before. Last time all the JWs that answered said that now they have the truth and nothing will need to be changed. Since then - - generation has been changed to mean overlappers. - the appointment over all Jesus belongings has been moved from 1919 to a future event. - the faithful and discreet slave is no longer... show more
    I have asked this question before. Last time all the JWs that answered said that now they have the truth and nothing will need to be changed. Since then - - generation has been changed to mean overlappers. - the appointment over all Jesus belongings has been moved from 1919 to a future event. - the faithful and discreet slave is no longer understood to be all anointed but only the governing body when they meet. - Gog of Magog has been changed from Satan to a coalition of nations. There are too many to list. Here are just the ones the Watchtower will admit to - https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200... So of course, some of these were so obviously false they had to be changed. Yet when people such as myself pointed this out all JWs argued me and labelled me opposer etc. Yet no JW could pick out any belief that would need to be further clarified. Now there are some obvious beliefs that will need to be changed in the future sine they are ridiculously in error. And I will point these out and JWs will argue until they're changed, then act as if it was what they believed all along. But can any JW pinpoint any beliefs that will need to be further clarified?
    2 answers · Religion & Spirituality · 6 months ago
  • Jehovah's Witnesses. Why is your Governing Body member lying to the world on this video?

    David Splane says that Fred Franz, baptized in 1913, "as one of the Lord's appointed in 1914 he saw the sign and he understood what the sign meant." We can prove from Watchtower publications that in 1914 no one in the Watchtower organization saw any sign in 1914 and understood what it meant. In 1914 all Watchtower publications and... show more
    David Splane says that Fred Franz, baptized in 1913, "as one of the Lord's appointed in 1914 he saw the sign and he understood what the sign meant." We can prove from Watchtower publications that in 1914 no one in the Watchtower organization saw any sign in 1914 and understood what it meant. In 1914 all Watchtower publications and followers were proclaiming that Jesus presence dated from 1874. David Splane is not telling the truth here. Surely lies make Jehovah sad. Why can't they be faithful and discreet? And let's not even go there about the whole overlapping generation being another lie to prop up a failing doctrinal lie. Honestly, how can you trust these people? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejO0Z8m2...
    9 answers · Religion & Spirituality · 7 months ago
  • Jehovah's Witnesses. How many generations have there been since 1914?

    The generation that saw 1914 was called the Interbellum Generation. The World War 2 generation was called the Greatest Generation. Next was the Silent Generation. Then we have the Baby Boomers. After them came Generation X. Then was Generation Y, also known as Generation Next or Millennials. Or are these all really just one big generation... show more
    The generation that saw 1914 was called the Interbellum Generation. The World War 2 generation was called the Greatest Generation. Next was the Silent Generation. Then we have the Baby Boomers. After them came Generation X. Then was Generation Y, also known as Generation Next or Millennials. Or are these all really just one big generation known as overlappers? Really? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejO0Z8m2...
    1 answer · Religion & Spirituality · 7 months ago
  • Jehovah's Witnesses. How do they count the generations in Matthew 1?

    17 So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations. Wait a minute. Some of these generations overlap. Isn't there like only 4 or 5 overlapping generations there?... show more
    17 So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations. Wait a minute. Some of these generations overlap. Isn't there like only 4 or 5 overlapping generations there? Either inspired writer Matthew got it wrong, or God's Organization the Faithful and Discreet Slave got it wrong.
    6 answers · Religion & Spirituality · 7 months ago
  • Jehovah's Witnesses. How can you tell if the Governing Body errs in doctrinal matters?

    "The Governing Body is neither inspired nor infallible. Therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction. In fact, the Watch Tower Publications Index includes the heading “Beliefs Clarified,” which lists adjustments in our Scriptural understanding since 1870. Of course, Jesus did not tell us that his faithful slave... show more
    "The Governing Body is neither inspired nor infallible. Therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction. In fact, the Watch Tower Publications Index includes the heading “Beliefs Clarified,” which lists adjustments in our Scriptural understanding since 1870. Of course, Jesus did not tell us that his faithful slave would produce perfect spiritual food." Watchtower 2017 Feb p.26 It seems as if no JW can discern if their Governing Body does err in doctrinal matters. In fact, you can point it out to them and they will argue you ... until the Governing Body get new light on the matter. Then they will argue the for the understanding, whether or not it errs again. Yet since they definitely do err, why can't a JW correctly discern the truth?
    10 answers · Religion & Spirituality · 7 months ago
  • Jehovah's Witnesses. What did Jesus mean when He said "I have declared unto them thy name"? John 17:26?

    Does it mean that Jesus rocked up to the temple and said to the Pharisees, who were experts in the Torah, and the Sadducees, who were experts in the Penteteuch, "Hey guess what guys - God's name is Jehovah"? Is that what it means? Like the Pharisees and Sadducees didn't know that?
    Does it mean that Jesus rocked up to the temple and said to the Pharisees, who were experts in the Torah, and the Sadducees, who were experts in the Penteteuch, "Hey guess what guys - God's name is Jehovah"? Is that what it means? Like the Pharisees and Sadducees didn't know that?
    10 answers · Religion & Spirituality · 7 months ago
  • Jehovah's Witnesses. Why are you called "publishers"?

    Where in the Bible is anyone called a "publisher"? Have you been duped into doing free promotion for a publishing company masquerading as a religion?
    Where in the Bible is anyone called a "publisher"? Have you been duped into doing free promotion for a publishing company masquerading as a religion?
    14 answers · Religion & Spirituality · 7 months ago
  • Jehovah's Witnesses. What was it like when Jesus appointed your leaders to be the "faithful and discreet slave"?

    Did a voice from heaven declare "This is my organization. Listen to them or be annihilated at Armageddon in 1975"? What was it actually like to be at Watchtower headquarters when Jehovah announced the selection of his "faithful and discreet slave" as his sole source of truth to mankind? Because your publications of the time in... show more
    Did a voice from heaven declare "This is my organization. Listen to them or be annihilated at Armageddon in 1975"? What was it actually like to be at Watchtower headquarters when Jehovah announced the selection of his "faithful and discreet slave" as his sole source of truth to mankind? Because your publications of the time in 1919 when this was supposed to have happened seem not to notice this significant event occurring. Almost as if they were not aware of it at the time. That's really weird how they didn't seem to know right away at the time they were appointed to such an important position over all Jesus belongings. It almost seems as if they were teaching a completely different story about this whole selection thing. Please tell me what it was actually like. It must have been a legendary day to be involved with the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society.
    7 answers · Religion & Spirituality · 8 months ago
  • Jehovah's Witnesses. Why should we believe in a 2nd fulfillment of Daniel 4 that points to 1914?

    Daniel specifically gives the interpretation for the dream so there is no need to invent another one. Nebuchadnezzar would act as a beast for 7 years. No second fulfillment specified. No reference to gentile times. No reference to end times. No reference to Israel. No reference to the destruction of the kingdom of Judah. No reference to the false... show more
    Daniel specifically gives the interpretation for the dream so there is no need to invent another one. Nebuchadnezzar would act as a beast for 7 years. No second fulfillment specified. No reference to gentile times. No reference to end times. No reference to Israel. No reference to the destruction of the kingdom of Judah. No reference to the false date of 607. No reference to 1914, an invisible paraousia, heavenly rulership, an appointment of a faithful and discreet slave or any other rubbish. It seems this interpretation is wrong on every front. Why not just listen to Daniel and not add to the scriptures?
    9 answers · Religion & Spirituality · 1 year ago
  • Jehovah's Witnesses. How come Bible prophecy matches history but Watchtower chronology doesn't?

    Jerusalem didn't fall in 607BC. So there was no invisible parousia beginning in 1914. So there was no setting up of "God's Kingdom" in 1914. So there was no appointment of a "faithful and discreet slave" in 1918-19. So all the "preaching" work done in the Watchtower name is all lies. Proof - Jews return in... show more
    Jerusalem didn't fall in 607BC. So there was no invisible parousia beginning in 1914. So there was no setting up of "God's Kingdom" in 1914. So there was no appointment of a "faithful and discreet slave" in 1918-19. So all the "preaching" work done in the Watchtower name is all lies. Proof - Jews return in 537BC. Opposite of return is not destruction or desolation, it is leaving. Counting back 70 years from here gives the date of leaving, not the date of destruction. These are 2 different things. Jeremiah said they would serve the King of Babylon 70 years. Babylon has fallen when Daniel prays for the desolation to end. Temple rebuilt in 516BC. End of the 70 years desolation. Babylon fell in 539BC. Agreed by the Watchtower and history. Nabonidus reigned 17 years, so his reign began 556BC. Labashi-Marduk 1 year. 557BC. Neriglissar 4 years. 561BC. Evil-Merodach 2 years. 563BC. Nebuchadnezzar 43 years. 606BC. Jerusalem fell in the 19th year of Nebuchadnezzar. 587 - 586BC. 2 Kings 25:8-9. Bible prophecy matches history and this should give you great confidence that the rest of the prophecies will come to pass. However the Watchtower chronology doesn't match history. They have not rightly divided the word of god and so teach all JWs to argue with history. Yet reconciling the Bible with history is possible. Why don't JWs want to do it? Yes this is a reup since it appears JWs are a bit sensitive about their inability to match the Bible with history.
    12 answers · Religion & Spirituality · 1 year ago
  • Jehovah's Witnesses. How should a Christian respond to "a different gospel"?

    1 Cor 1:17-18,23-24 For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel-not with words of human wisdom, lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power. For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God...but we preach CHRIST CRUCIFIED: a stumbling block to Jews... show more
    1 Cor 1:17-18,23-24 For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel-not with words of human wisdom, lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power. For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God...but we preach CHRIST CRUCIFIED: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. "Let the honest-hearted person compare the kind of preaching of the gospel done by the religious systems of Christendom during all the centuries with that done by Jehovah's Witnesses since the end of World War I in 1918. They are not one and the same kind. That of Jehovah's Witnesses is really "gospel" or "good news," as of God's heavenly kingdom that was established by the enthronement of his Son Jesus Christ at the end of the Gentile Times in 1914." Watchtower, May 1, 1981, p. 17 Gal 1:8-9 But even though we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to that which we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to that which you received, let him be accursed.
    Religion & Spirituality · 2 years ago