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Is it true every moroccan guy online is a user to get out of the country?

I know its stupid to chat to guys online but anyway i'm talking to moroccan guy and yes he approached me and flirted.. i'm not older than him and he has not asked for money or nothing he's asked me about my life and seems pleased that i have never been married and have no children, i've told him that i don't have a house of my own or a job at the moment and he still seems happy enough to talk to me! but of course i have the advantage of living in britain.. he asked me how i would feel if we lived in morocco i didn't really know how to answer.. he wants to talk to my family on the phone and he wants me to visit him i keep saying i can't afford to (which i can't) and he says he will wait and has patience with me... i suppose what i'm asking is do you think he likes me at all?? i mean why doesn't he move on to an easier target if he wants in the country because i'm not making it easy for him!
  • 3 months ago

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I know terry g, i don't mean to generlize i'm just worried... would you say he may like me from what i've said??

3 months ago

Yes Adam he is muslim and i am christian, he has already asked me if my father knows about him but he doesn't only my mum knows (she isn't best pleased about it) he asked if he could talk to her on the phone but i knew she wouldn't... anyway i just worry myself why he is so eager to have me go over and visit him.. he told me that all of his family know about me also.

3 months ago

Thankyou all so far for your answers they are all very interesting and helpful...
I'm definatly not under any illusions about this guy, I know true love just cannot happen over the internet its impossible on both our parts.... I do have a feeling he has other girls on the go i even thought that he is keeping his options open and will choose the best one..fair enough.....
he told me he was talking to me from home and when we started to chat on webcam he showed me around the room with the cam and it was a home, he also sends me photos and told me he works for a family company as administrater or something.. he seems comfortable enough computer, mobile, tv, ect.. i take everything with a pinch of salt always though!
he asked me out of the blue if we were together how many kids would we have, i told him i never wanted children.. he seemed pretty sad when i said this and said that he wants kids and that maybe in time i will change my mind for him!! so i don't know what to make of that?

3 months ago

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Hello,

Like others have said, it's quite the generalization but since you already know that, let's move on to your question: Does he like me for me?

First let me take a stab at explaining this negative perception earned by Moroccan men:

A Moroccan passport doesn't take you many places or at least not the places with the economic opportunity and the better lifestyle.
While the country is changing, it is still plagued by many third-world problems and therefore many young people will try to immigrate elsewhere. Nothing wrong with that.

Moroccan youth want out because:
- Lack of opportunity
- Unwillingness to find one's place in a difficult environment
- General dislike of the place
- The grass is always greener elsewhere
- A genuine desire to join a loved one

I don't know where this guy falls. Maybe he's a combination of these things. Only time will tell.
You will need to talk to him, meet him and spend time getting to know him. In addition to the things you want in a husband, you need to think about future challenges in terms of religion, children with dual ethnicity/identity, where you want to live, family attitudes, ...etc.

Another factor somewhat specific to morocco and a few other places is that marriage is cost-prohibitive in general. Families are an essential part of the wedding and the relationship afterward. Many will dictate requirements to the groom but also to the bride in some cases. Many Moroccan young women want a man who has money and who can give them a comfortable and nice lifestyle (and I don't mean the necessities mandated by Islam). The Moroccan society is becoming more and more materialistic. So many young men just choose to bypass this non-sense and marry a foreigner. Not saying this guy is doing this but it is good to know all this.

The fact that he's persistent reveals either desperation or a hope that you might turn out to be the woman he wants and he's willing to wait. If you can't afford the eventual trip(s), be upfront and don't waste your time.

I don't blame your mum for her thinking. If I was a mother, I would be suspicious of any prospective boyfriend or husband with this kind of eagerness especially one coming from another country with the issues outlined above.

So you need to decide how bad you want this? How well he's worth it? and then take a course of action. If you want to pursue this, go see him since he obviously can't come to you. If you don't, be honest and end it.
  • 3 months ago
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I've choosen this answer because i totally agree with what you say near the end, the cost of trips, is he worth it, the children, where to live ect... also i haven't been completly honest with the guy myself so i think its time i made a decision on this!

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  • ken b by ken b
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    yes, but you never know
    • 3 months ago
  • ♥ terry g ♥ by ♥ terry g ♥
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    No, that's an ugly generalization. There are good and bad people in every country of this world.


    Edit: Sweetie, l wish l knew his true feelings for you. No one knows that but him, and maybe you. My advice on all of this is to follow your gut instincts... lf something doesn't feel right, it's probably not.

    Source(s):

    Happily married to a Moroccan.
    • 3 months ago
  • stressedandconfused by stressed...
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    Sounds like he is sincere but I am in Morocco now and could tell you some stories. But that is for another time. Just go slow as you would with any man. Relationships are give and get not get and ry to get more.
    • 3 months ago
  • Nothing but the truth™ by Nothing but the truth™
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    like what terry g said there is bad and good ppl anywhere in the world , just take me for example i'm moroccan and i am happily in love with a canadian girl and believe me i'm going to Canada to be with her just because that is where she lives. Would be the same if she was from anywhere else in the world. I love Morocco, I never had any ulterior motives. I have a great job here and i wish she could come and live with me but she cant leave her mom there alone and university. So, I will do what I have to do to be with her. It's really hard to maintain a long distance relationship but in my case it's really worth it.

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    me and my baby
    • 3 months ago
  • Casablanca by Casablan...
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    It's true that there is bad and good people everywhere you go, But definitely there is high numbers of men and women that their primary goal is to get out of the country to North America or Europe therefore, they can sound so sweet, loving and charming to get what they want, BUT many of these people stays in the relationship(after achieving their goals) because simply they fall in love with that person .

    You should do your homework before jumping into that relationship .
    Good luck

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    Moroccan
    • 3 months ago
  • Adam by Adam
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    Just keep in mind a few simple rules of Islam. ( I assume he is a muslim)

    1. He cannot marry you if you are not a chaste and practicing Christian or Jew (I assume u are not a muslim)

    2. In Islam the man is totally responsible for the support of the woman. So If he wants to marry you, he would need to speak to your Father or another male relative first. (there is some debate on this as u are not muslim) but the main point would be that HE would have to pay for your trip there to meet him, and for a close male relative to accompany you so you dont travel alone....

    3. He would be required to support you IN Morocco, not you sponsor him to come to England

    4. Lots more details but I hope you get the idea. Be careful....ask him about these things, and about if he prays all his prayers etc...for if he doesnt, then one would have to ask what else he is deficient in...

    ***Note to Tunisian...u say your partner? AstigfirAllah. Its obvious he is NOT a practicing muslim. GOD help him to get rid of you and return to his religion. U say what I said is rubbish? You might not like it, but it IS in the religion....Get some self respect and quit whoring around.
    • 3 months ago
  • zuleha-needs a less boring job by zuleha-needs a less boring job
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    Love is always taking a chance,no matter where you meet the person, and thats something to always keep in mind. Relationships that look perfect on paper fail,while relationships that seem destined for disaster can last and last.
    I know of two situations personally like the one you are describing(neither involve Moroccans but the lesson to be learned are the same)
    One story involved a guy from my own home country who met a girl online and went to see her after only talking to her a month, and married her immediately. She was a very young girl from a small town so he figured he had it made-but he was wrong. Within a very short time of her coming here, she had run up HUGE credit card and phone bills...she left him and moved in with a guy her own age,and the guy who brought her to the USA is out thousands of dollars.
    On the other hand, there is a Muslim revert lady I know who brought her husband here back in 1999 and they just bought a house together and are about to have baby #3. What made the difference? She did her homework. She visited him and his family,met his friends, but did not let herself get pressured into marriage till she knew who he really was.
    So I guess the main point is...be very careful and take your time...weigh your options and get to know the guy very well before you decide if he's worth taking a chance on.
    • 3 months ago
  • Butterfly Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ by Butterfly Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ
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    Although there are many men from Morocco who just want to get out of Morocco and find an innocent victim to con, it's not always that way. I met my husband on line and we got to know each other for a year before I ever went to Morocco. I am older than him, but I'm no great catch. If all he wanted was a visa he could have found someone more similar to the women he dated before(yes I know it's haram). Neither of us were even looking to get married, he just wanted someone to practice English with and a friend of his gave him my email address. He also wanted me to move to Morocco because he had no desire to leave, but I couldn't go because of finances and my son, so he agreed to come to the US. He would have gone to a different planet to be with me.

    Since it sounds like neither of you have the money for you to go to Morocco then you've got time to get to know him better. Like someone else said go with your gut feelings. It's amazing how much you can truly learn about a person on the internet.

    My mom wasn't thrilled either and neither was his, but both of them know now how much we love each other and now all of our family members support us. I am very attached to his extended family as well and they are very attached to me. We've waited 3 long years together and are on the home stretch with just a few weeks to go.

    Take your time and follow your heart and your brain. Good Luck.
    • 3 months ago
  • modigliana by modiglia...
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    I would be very careful. Try and find out more about his economic situation.If he's from a very modest background, if he's unemployed and generally seems like he's not fairing that well in morocco, then he might have ulterior motives. As for him being patient and not going after an easier target, well I would first say you have no way of knowing if he doesn't have a few other girls he chats with on the side. He might be working a few leads, and whichever works out first, then he'll go with that one. Also, he can be patient because there isn't much for him to do, what is this costing him? a few dirhams a day at the internet cafe? I have honestly heard soooo many stories about this kind of thing, that i'd be extremely careful. I've heard stories from many guys first hand.

    It's not that they are malicious and want to hurt you necessarily, but you do what u gotta do.
    having said that, he might be different...I also know of a guy who had initally started off that way with an Aussi girl, but eventually did fall in love with her and came clean about his initial motives, they broke up for 2 years after that (she dumped him...understandbly)...but he worked his *** off to get back with her, and they eventually did...she went to live with him in Morocco, then they moved to England together and are expecting their first child...
    so sometimes it works.
    • 3 months ago
  • Tweety : ) by Tweety : )
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    No!! not all of them are like that :)
    • 3 months ago
  • TunisianAnimator by Tunisian...
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    Just keep in mind a few simple rules of Islam.
    1. He cannot marry you if you are not a chaste and practicing Christian or Jew (I assume u are not a muslim)

    this is alot of rubbish to be honest. i never had a religion before i got with my TUNISIAN partner who is a muslim. i have friends that dont have religions and they are happily married to muslim men..


    2. In Islam the man is totally responsible for the support of the woman. So If he wants to marry you, he would need to speak to your Father or another male relative first. (there is some debate on this as u are not muslim) but the main point would be that HE would have to pay for your trip there to meet him, and for a close male relative to accompany you so you dont travel alone....

    this is not true.. You only need permission to marry from your father if you are under 21. this is the rules and regulations of all of the muslim countries such as Tunisia, Morocco, Egypt, Lebanon, Algeria ECT. also he does not need to support you! he doesnt need to pay for anything even though it would be nice :)

    3. He would be required to support you IN Morocco, not you sponsor him to come to England

    you wouldnt need to sponsor him or him sponsor you. If you had any intentions of him coming to the uk thats when you would need to sponsor him if he did not have the oney to support himself.


    Having an online relationship can work, it needs trust more than anything, most people want to belive that the partner is not lying and he or she is telling the truth about things ECT.

    My opinion is to give him a chance. wait a few more good months then maybe plan to visit him, After the Visit see how he is. THERE ARE GENUINE ONES OUT THERE AND THEY ARE NOT ALL RATS :D

    Source(s):

    My partner is Tunisian.
    • 2 months ago
  • Denxist by Denxist
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    of course not everyone but the majority are.
    • 2 months ago
  • aznzar by aznzar
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    Hi there,
    I would say as every body else that there is good and bad people every where in the whole world. and no body here in this answers will give you the truth; I mean no body will give you the write answer (100 per cent) about whats your (boyfriend) plan unless if somebody know him and knows whats he planing to do.
    Not every body wants to leave morocco or get married with europeans just for that reason. I know there some people are crazy about leaving the county and making new life in Europe, and they get chance to do that by marriage and why not its the best way to do it as long as they're faithful and really in Love and happy to share the rest of their life with their partner where ever in this world. So there is nothing wrong if some one wants or prefer to live with his partner where ever he/she likes as long as they're both happy.
    So hopefully your moroccan guy is honest in his conversation with you, and to get to know each other more and more you really have to meet face to face and spend time together... Any way I wish you my best and good luck to you.

    Source(s):

    Moroccan Amazigh
    I love morocco! and I like it here as well! and this is not the Paradaise, but just what was written in the stars that I'll live this part of my life here in Europe... and the most important still happily in love with my sweet wife but even more and more each day.
    • 2 months ago
  • up.down by up.down
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    Hey, let me tell you something.
    Before you get head over heels involved... know that it is long distance. You may think you know the person... but you know what they've told you. What they wanted you to know. Trust me... people are sneaky and people lie.
    Chances are if he's talking to you online... he's talking to 5 other girls the same way.
    If you're cool with this.. then go for it. but to me it would look like he's looking for whatever he can get... aka whatever one would want him and continues to talk to him.

    I know this isn't a 100 % accurate but I see this a lot with Moroccan guys. They say they have a gf, fiance or wife then you see then talking and flirting with 10 other women.
    When the girl asks who they are.... they make up more continued lies.
    And you'd think since many of them are devote muslims they would have some decency not to live a life full of lies...but I guess that is their faith

    So in conclusion.... please be aware that some are manipulative and liars
    • 2 months ago

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