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Can anybody explain why on rearranging the triangle a hole appears?

Hey, this is really puzzling me!!! check out http://web.mat.bham.ac.uk/N.M.Queen/history/hole.html
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The length of the main hypotenuse is different for the two big triangles. One hypotenuse is longer than the other. This accounts for the one unit of "missing" area.

Look at the bottom triangle. Pay attention to where the green and orange sections meet. Their topmost intersection point is different when compared to the exact same spot in the big triangle at the top.

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Dont know if Im right but there are 14 borders (between different parts) on top triangle and 13 borders on low triangle, the diffeence is that one virtual hole.

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http://web.mat.bham.ac.uk/N.M.Queen/history/hole.html

according to Dr.N.M.Queen, no one here has ever solved this question.
so i wonder why its' said to be solved.email me, aboy_bee@yahoo.com.my for the answer.i've checked with Dr.N.M.Queen directly.

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Note that the equation of the hypotenuse line can be assumed as y=(5/13)x. And the point (8,3) does not satisfy that equation. Hence we can easily say the grids are not with equal distances. I mean the triangle was drawn in a not fair and wrong grid :)).

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  • Darkestsniper by Darkests...
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    A very very good question!! I liked the problem a lot. Haven't got and answer, but gotta say the one Keith A said made most sense to me. nice going! one of the few problems i couldn't solve.!
    The little trick is to realise the hypotenuse in the first trriangle is NOT i repeat NOT a STRAIGHT LINE. Keith A explains that well with trignometry! Wow, didn;t think that was an assumsion i was not sposed to make!
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  • Keith A by Keith A
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    Consider the gradient of the sloping line:
    It is 5/13.
    Now, 5/13 of 8 (the red triangle) is 3 + 1/13, not 3 as both diagrams seem to suggest! And the green triangle has a 1/13 deficit from the supposed height, 2 .

    If you were to draw the second diagram accurately, the yellow and orange pieces would have edges just below the grid line; hence the hole. (Try calculating the area of the pieces.)
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  •   by  
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    wow...this puzzles me too .....
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  • imcurious by imcuriou...
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    The only possible explanation I can come up with and I might be totally wrong is: (it says there are "hidden assumptions.") Well I was assuming that all the squares are the same size and maybe they aren't. Again, I may be totally wrong but maybe they are not entirely straight lines forming the grid.

    That is the best I can do. Any one else with ideas?
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  • Dan by Dan
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    how can the hypotenuse be different if the lenght of the other 2 sides is the same and it is a right angled triangle????

    BUT IT ISN'T A RIGHT ANGLED TRIANGLE
    so the hypotenuses can be different
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  • Rap4life by Rap4life
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    well, the red triangle is longer than the green triangle. and the brownish and yellow peices are cut such that the only match together. by placing the red triangle on top and the green triangle on the side, the rectangle made by the brown/yellow peices has to be longer. thus u separate the rectangle by moving the orange part left 2 and down 1. a hole is made because where the orange and yellow peices used to peice together, the orange only had 2 squares and the yellow had three. mainly its because the red triangle is longer than the green, so switching them makes everything else change. hope that helps :)
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  • kit walker by kit walker
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    The apex is pointed,and turned,produces a hole..so to speak. OK..we are talking pyramids here...that's the Pharaoh's burial chamber..stinks like hell in summer..
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